

Sounds exactly like the kind of evil to leave. Well done! “Gross” nearly fits. It’s disgusting. Preying on the weakest amongst us is plain disgusting.
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Sounds exactly like the kind of evil to leave. Well done! “Gross” nearly fits. It’s disgusting. Preying on the weakest amongst us is plain disgusting.


Ok, “evil” surely isn’t black/white. Capitalism in its roots borders around evil, that’s true. But it’s still a difference of selling crap to idiots who won’t question their purchases and ripping e.g. people off of their stuff or just…well, selling arms, munition, addictive drugs (knowing there would be non-addictive versions), making/selling alcohol/nicotine and whatnot…


Everyone has a choice. It might be harder for some, but it’s still a choice. Work for the evil company or not. Noone forces me at gunpoint to go to work. I’d argue it’s possible to change. Maybe not easy or fun, but possible. There may be exceptions in uncivilized countries where it’s “work or die” where it’s “me or them”.
I, personally, just couldn’t. Working for someone that’s clearly against my ethics or moral code? I would probably prefer welfare over that. Couldn’t enjoy anything I would buy from that salary. Better be poor but proud than rich and ashamed of myself.


Sorry, but if you know your company is evil and you still work there, you’re evil too.
Once worked at a very major German donation-based organization as an it-admin. Wanted to do something valuable with my sparetime. What I learned there made me never donate a single cent again to any organization ever. I left on the spot, knowing they would never dare to sue because they fear the truth could come out. People could literally just not show up for weeks without explanation and wouldn’t even get a slap on the wrist. Before that I donated like 50k a year to many.
Could I work there and still call myself “a good people”? Absolutely not.


Hehe, nah, germany. But I like my privacy and don’t like gifting away my data for free :)


Why the attack? I’m against this. I might benefit from capitalism but i must not like it. And I do not. It’s a shitty pyramid-scheme resulting in exactly shit like this. Many brands (that i know of…) do not put physically already existing hardware behind a paywall. Yet. But in the end, they all will do, because people don’t care, or worse: don’t see the implications it does and just accept.
As said, i now drive a pre-enshittification-car with no such shit. Might they still exist somehow in the future.


Absolutely. But, as usual, we all let it happen, it will happen more, and in the end it’s the total default for everything. Capitalism always wins over ignorance or apathy.


Because, it’s already built into my car, i already paid for the car, the whole transaction is concluded. Paying in hindsight for a part of it, that is already there, is not really justified at all. If they built the car without one, and would have to add it later, then it would make sense. So if it would be more expensive to have my car explicitly built without this feature, why does it suddenly cost money when i decide i want it later?
The signal-broadcast all around everywhere and just YOU paying is simply for the fact they they can’t route them specifically to just YOUR house. It might sound equally unfair but it’s a clear distinction based on technical impossibility.


And that’s when I switched a while ago from a modern Bentley to an “ancient” mechanical car from a past long forgotten. Every electrical gadget is local, and it just has android auto (dedicated isolated phone just for the car) with a fake google account for navigation. Everyone thinks we’re broke lol, but I’m so fed with this shit. Even a silly backlight went from 5 bucks for a replacement-bulb to 1500 bucks for the whole led-package. Parts alone, add the mechanic and the many hours needed.
Heard that all brands do this shit though. Like even disabling things remotely that are there but you didn’t subscribe to. This is bonkers.


I only have one fake google account on an isolated VM with dedicated VPN. For the rare cases it’s unavoidable for something. Whoever actually uses gmail, will get what they pay for.
But this is probably anti-AI-ragebait anyway.


Hmm. Genau von denen erwartet man das. Die “oberen” die die “unteren” als Vieh halten. Die wissen doch nicht einmal wie und wo ihr Vieh lebt.
Ich persönlich finde eben die aus der gleichen “Klasse” am widerlichsten.


No live animals, sorry sir. NEXT!


Gibt es widerlicheren Menschen-Abschaum als die, die Leute in Not auszunutzen?


“Ich dachte Google [die APP] ist das Internet?”
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Ja ich dachte auch WTF als ich das las. Nun ist ja nicht jeder ein IT-spezi, aber wer Geldgeschäfte jedweder Art online tätigt, sollte nun wahrlich einen verdammten netz-grundkurs belegen. Oder sich die basics der it-security mal von der “KI” erklären lassen statt die Validität von Websites.


Depends on the level of criminal though. Pedo-networks surely know to evade the law. See e.g. the major pedo-forum which exists for way Over a decade and is full to the brim.
I also doubt that anyone really cares about some street-level-thug. Anyone seriously slinging would surely also just ditch surface apps. If they’d even use those phones at all. I wouldn’t.


Fair points. But “just” surveillance? Anyone worth being surveiled sure wouldn’t be so dumb to use WhatsApp or other stupid crap. I’m worthless to surveillance and even I would not be possible to surveil.
Just seems weird that it’s pushed so hard. Surveillance was always a must-have, but why now? The moment it gets voted away it’s back on the table.


While he’s technically not wrong, i hate the world and where it will continue to go to.


Illogical? Chat is not just about sms-style dumb texts. It’s images and videos. Trillions of freshly taken photographs. Those are tremendously valuable. And even if it’d be just text, it’s natural training on people. But it’s also video calls, another incredibly valuable thing.
And sure, the EU has no AI to offer, hence I said “some ai billionaire” or anyone or lobby that wants that shit being pushed hard.
But as it is just a thought of a possibility I might totally be wrong. As if peasants like us would ever be allowed to know.
Yeah sure, i hear you. Though one could argue if having the (silly) opinion to scratch modern gendering off the agenda is actually “evil”. It’s stupid, but it’s just a political opinion one is allowed to have and share. And fully live out in one’s company. So, quitting here just because they’re narrow-minded and stupid would be a bit overkill. But just staying there until you find something better: Totally acceptable I’d say. I might’ve sound very harsh and black/white-ish, but i often talk in principles, not in simple 100%-always-appliable-rules-for-everybody.
And kudos that you do your protest in the means possible :)