cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/30934764
The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.
Check out www.posteo.de.
The fact that a privacy company based in a non five eyes country is even praising a government - especially one like the US - is a red flag.
Nevermind the fact that they claim Republicans are anti big tech while being surrounded by tech CEOs…
Cancelled my Proton subscription citing this as the reason. Hope others do the same. This administration is not normal and relations should never be normalized with them.
Yep, did the same. Started using Tuta for email, solid privacy and UI, app available on F-Droid, and the bonus for me was them being powered by renewables.
The language in the tweet was telling, i.e party of the “little guys” and tagging the president for visibility. You can’t turn a blind eye to all the other destabilizing things this admin is doing just because they made 1 semi-competent cabinet pick (which should be the baseline expectation).
Planning to do the same, but first I have to find an alternative for my mail, probably I will try a self hosted mail server for a while
“We’re not liberal or conservative, we’re a secret third thing!(conservative)”
They’re swiss.
We have more parties in our equivalent of the presidential office than you have parties in total.
I have huge problems with this notion that you have to be either democrat or conservative. They don’t even cover 50% of the opinions I, a green-liberal (actual liberal, not US-definition), hold.
You’re absolutely able and allowed to have your own opinion different from what any party official says.
They were commenting on American politics though. Swiss parties are irrelevant. Supporting Trump is a crazy position no matter what your nationality is or what parties exist in that country.
When commenting on US politics, they should be aware of US political realities though. When taking position relative to US politics, they should be aware of that. At the very least, they should comment that they’re progressive or something along the lines of “Our political orientation isn’t represented in US politics” to acknowledge that, like you did.
But when your CEO endorses Republicans, pretending you’re neutral isn’t a good look.
Don’t forget, Swiss Neutrality is the special kind of neutrality that lets them store gold bullion made from Jewish tooth fillings.
Yes but swiss people can still be absolutely piece of shit human beings. They proved that in WWII by helping fund the Nazis directly. Swiss people also aren’t immune from rampant US party propaganda. You aren’t magical, psychologically different humans than the rest of the world.
Publicly supporting an openly fascist dictator, whatever “political party” they are on, someone who directly opposes the stated mission and values of the company, means that they are piece of shit humans who cannot be trusted with our data because they will just lie with what they do with it just like how they lied to us about their company values.
Saying someone is swiss isnt the defense you want it to be considering that the swiss helped harbor nazi wealth.
Holy non-sequitur
We are in a thread about businesses supporting Nazis.
That’s not a counterargument lmao are you serious?
A you tell me what you think a non-sequitur is?
I have a huge problem with parties period. Parties inhibit critical thinking. And I’m an American. And I don’t want this. Eat the rich!
They vote for whoever helps them get paid the most.
Capitalist.
I believe them. They’ll praise whomever is in power. Neutral opportunists.
That’s not a good thing though.
Correct. It’s bad, whether the Dems or the GOP are in power. It’s not suddenly bad now.
“while spewing right wing propaganda”
FTFY
This is what a kleptocratic oligarchy looks like folks. Suck up to the big man and he’ll let you fleece the joint.
I’m in a pickle. Got proton and my own domain for email so I would be able to make an easy switch… but now I have masked emails for dozens if not hundreds of account logins.
I may be too Roman, but I will never trust a Swiss.
This is not an ad
Enter email to receive emailsI disagree, Mr Website.
I used bob@example.com without issues.
I did no@reply.com
I always prefer NoneOfYour@damn-business.com
That’s a good one!
I prefer fuckyou@getfucked.io
The benefit of example.com is that no one can ever register it, so there’s never a chance of causing additional spam to a genuine domain owner.
I just change it to reader-mode
Also try root@[base URL]
I like to look up the website’s customer service email address and use that.
What a chad!
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Just turn noscript on and the popup doesnt show up.
Capitalism -> Fascism
I’ve been looking in to degoogling and was considering Protonmail before this. Does anybody know of a good alternative? Espeically one that lets you have multiple email addresses?
I bit the bullet this month & bought a domain so I can assign mail handling and change providers without changing my email address. Currently using https://purelymail.com/ because they’re $10/year for as many addresses & domains as you want “within reason.” It’s apparently just one guy with some AWS instances, but it was very straightforward to set up.
I was dumb enough to walk away from that approach about 10 years ago. Ugh. But you’ve convinced me. The annual cost of a domain is lunch money for a week. The freedom it provides in this scenario is well worth it.
There’s a lot of domains you can get for the price of a single coffee, if you don’t insist on it being cute, readable, or one of the legacy TLDs. Between purelymail and a .top domain, it’s $15/year.
+1 for purelymail.
I’ve had my personal domain on gmail and most recently proton. Proton got too pricy when I wanted to add another couple of domains. After some research I landed on purelymail, and it’s been smooth sailing to set up and use.
The same applies to what I commented about Mxroute - Purelymail doesn’t cater to users who require end-to-end encryption, advanced privacy features, or those who need built-in security measures beyond standard email protocols, as it’s primarily focused on reliable email delivery and hosting rather than security-first communication.
Tuta would be a viable alternative to Proton.
Yeah, I considered E2EE. Even set up PGP keys in Thunderbird and installed https///mailvelope.com . For E2EE to really be viable, your correspondents have to comply, and none of the people I email with have any interest. I even email with someone on proton, and they always reply to me in the clear.
I mean, as far as I’m concerned, if not for all the websites that ask for email to register, I wouldn’t be using it. No personal comms go via email.
What do you mean by “I bought a domain”? Is the domain has been rented or there is someone who sells domain for life and heritage?
If you only care about email (and calendar, I guess) Tuta is a pretty good choice. I’ve been using it for years and had only one problem very early on. Additional aliases are only available with the paid plan (€3 a month) however, same as Proton I believe.
Yup.
Tuta works well for me for the past year or so, so I recently switched to their annual plan. I used Proton for a couple years (paid plan) and preferred it, but they raised the price so I bailed. The €3 plan from Tuta is more than enough for me.
I’m still on a legacy plan (which still feels like a really good deal despite some small concessions compared to the new plans) but yeah, even with the new prices it’s definitely worth it.
Also, while not strictly email focused but they have a blog with articles about various privacy related topics and news - it’s a pretty neat source of info, especially for those less knowledgeable about this stuff.
I have pretty good experience with Tutanota an bitwarden as the most direct alternatives
Tutanota apps lack a bit of polish but the UI looks reasonably nice and gets the job done. Bitwarden has treated me pretty well.
After digging around, I’m going to try Tuta for email/calendar and Mullvad for VPN. Tuta’s €3 plan lets you have 15 additional addresses and 3 custom domains.
Anyone using a good proton drive alternative?
Anyone using a good proton drive alternative?
I run Synology NAS at home and I love it, but it was expensive to set up.
Other extreme is Syncthing for completely free device sync, but no backup beyond your devices and both devices must be online to sync.
I self-hosted Nextcloud on cloudamo with Cryptomator for e2ee but I can’t really recommend it. Nextcloud is pain to administer and tends to be buggy.
I have tuta, bitwarden, firefox relay, and libreoffice, seems to work decently. I am also considering getting a mullvald vpn, but not sure how well it works with torrenting, since they no longer support port-forward.
Using Mullvad, I stay connected to it 24/7. I’ve no problems with torrenting. It costs 5€/month. Maybe try it out to see if it’ll suit you as well.
same, my torrent container is connected to Mullvad and works great.
I have my qbittorrent container set up the same way, no issues. Only minor inconvenience I have now is having to manually renew my subscription every month because they stopped storing payment information (good!).
Does bitwarden have a browser extension for firefox?
Yes they do
Yes. This is also something you could have googled in the time it took to comment.
Yeah true, but then other people who are thinking about making the switch would also have to ask that question or Google. Plus sometimes the browser extensions are exist but are shit. The human recommendation holds more weight.
I’m coping hard with that response
It’s not the most practical thing in the universe, but I have a small VPS that I host my email on for myself and a couple others (5 addresses in total). It’s a bit of a pain to set up, but once it’s working, it is really nice to have that kind of control.
There are dozens of us!
I think email gets a bad rap for difficulty of hosting. So long as you get your DMARC, DKIM, RDNS, SPF, etc right, it’s reasonably forgiving. Need to take server down for maintenance? No worries- any mail that couldn’t be delivered will be resent in a few minutes/hours/days.
Harder than hosting a simple website? Yes. Rocket surgery? No.
I’ve heard https://mailbox.org/en/ is good.
Been using it a few years and I’m happy. Best upgrade coming from google is that the calendar actually works with thunderbird.
im using a nextcloud host called murena. you could probably use an equally good one or self host, but i found the free next cloud host sign up tool too buggy to use.
main draw of next cloud for me is you can use features like third party clients and calendar sharing without having to manually prepare for account downgrade if you want a lower tier, and in fact the only difference between tiers is storage
note that im not clear how good their encryption is, it seems not to be fully end to end encrypted
Eww I stepped in shit
Well fuck
Yeah, my two year contact just renewed with them before this happened. fml
You can get a refund within 30 of an auto-renewal. That’s what I did too.
Whaaaaa? For reals? It didn’t let me automatically, so I assume you had to contact them?
You have to contact them about the refund, it’s not automatic.
You can still cancel your subscription so that it won’t auto-renew in 2 years and it let’s you leave a comment when doing so if you want to voice any concerns.
Plan Your escape… It takes a hit minute to switch emails anyway
Yeah, I’m just salty about the timing. I’ve already started the process, but if I had a crystal ball I would have downgraded to a year max, or maybe monthly.
Edit
So… we are going to police people’s thoughts/actions/speeches now ?
Be a bit practical here people, Imagine the right-wingers saying “Oh no, he donated to left wingers, reeeeeeeee”
Official company announcement, not only personal one.
Proton has position itself as a service for those who want to avoid big tech spying on them and unfair government prosecution. It is then very charring that they officially support a party that is trying to go out of their way to reduce women/lgbtq rights and invited the whole cabal of big tech as guests of honor to the innaguration.
If their mission and their messages do not align, it’s normal that customers are concerned.
I would be concerned of they officially supported any other party, but this case is specially outrageous.
Be a bit practical here people, Imagine the right-wingers saying “Oh no, he donated to left wingers, reeeeeeeee”
This might be sarcasm right? They went full reeee with Nike, Gillette, Budweiser, Costco…
They did now, didn’t they, I’m simply gonna wait until Trump in his magnificent stupidity tries sanctioning Proton
Let’s see Andy come out of that
Nah… Much better to take the pitchforks out for every little shit one reads in the internet and pretend to be a good guy to accumulate fake internet points.
Sounds like a good plan
Really, the stupidity of some netizens on these daily “scandals” is astounding. It’s like they’re always looking for something/someone to be upset about. People, nobody cares which service/browser/whatever you use, so no need to announce everywhere that you’re leaving. Just leave.
For instance: https://lemm.ee/post/53975606
LOL, jusk ask for alternative, man. No need to put a story behind that.
