Only a matter of time til they exclude the US with moves like this.

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    Russia has a lot of resources and they did nothing wrong

    Well other than genocide. But hey. What’s a little ethnic cleansing between friends, I guess

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      The Russian Armed Forces have committed mass crimes such as Bucha and pulled an Operation Babylift.

      The sanctions against them is for the 2022 invasion which overall isn’t really worst than say America’s invasion of Iraq, in fact less so if you compare civilian casualties in both. Russia and its predecessor employed the same tactics in Chechnya (filtration camps), Syria and Afghanistan as Russia now does in Ukraine but the regime did not have the intent to exterminate the Chechens, Syrians, or Afghanis. Compare this to actions of say Sudan, whose regime explictly wanted to exterminate the Darfuri people leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in massacres.

      Should US have been sanctioned because of Abu Ghraib? No? So why should Russia be sanctioned?

      Despite this, Russia is treated as the kicking bag of the world. Look at 2014 annexation of Crimea where Russia took over Crimea without any shots fired, was welcomed with roses, and even the local military units decided to almost unanimously defect to the Russian side. But despite being rather bloodless compared to say western interventions, Russia’s membership in G8 was suspended and America’s membership was left untouched despite Iraq.

      As to the genocide accusations, Biden said “yes,” but his administration, said “no,” or at least, “we are looking into it" per Rich Lowry of Politco. At least, as a conflict as a whole, I’d say no but definitions vary so outcomes of this question varies.

      William Schabas states that, because killings of civilians were more common at the start of the conflict, that weighs against a finding of genocide.

      Edit: sorry for the constant edits and re edits, I was quite known for that back in Reddit.