• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    It claims the current tensions did not start on 7 October with the Hamas attack in Israel.

    Well it certainly kicked off the latest round

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    8 months ago

    Does anyone actually care what New Zealand thinks? If New Zealand cares so much they can start taking more people in. From what I understand New Zealand is one of the few countries that takes more quota refugees than asylum seekers. That means they take in less asylum seekers than the UN mandated quota of refugees. The UN quota is 1500 per year so their total intake per year is less than 3000 people.

    I wouldn’t say New Zealand is xenophobic, but they are extremely restrictive on immigration, asylum seekers, and refugees. I play a lot of Path of Exile which is based out of New Zealand and they’ve stated that to get a job there you have to move to New Zealand because New Zealand law prohibits companies from hiring from outside of New Zealand unless the company can prove that the needed job can’t be filled by a New Zealander.

    The standard of living in New Zealand is fairly high, but it’s mostly because they are NIMBY and I Got Mine.

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    It claims the current tensions did not start on 7 October with the Hamas attack in Israel.

    It didn’t start with October 7th, Hamas has fired thousands of rockets at Israel and sent over plenty of suicide bombers before that. October 7th is just when Israel gave up pretending the cease fires actually worked.

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      8 months ago

      It started when the colonial state of Israel was forced upon the people living in the area.

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        8 months ago

        Israel has to exist. The land was already inhabited by Jews and there were several partition offers.

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            8 months ago

            So where should all the Jews go? What if they originated from Yemen or countries similar to it? Edit: What would be your solution then? From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free? Lead by Hamas or Fatah?

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              8 months ago

              Israel is not all Jewish people, so it’s existence as a state does not change the living circumstances for Jewish people across the world.

              As for a solution, no one has the easy fix and it’s a difficult road a head as you’ll see from any post-colonial country. I can say that the process can never start while one side is unfairly oppressed and murdered however.

              • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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                8 months ago

                Israel is not all Jewish but around 70% are Jews. The biggest minority are Arabs (~20%) that have the same rights as all other citizens.

                How come Israel its existence does not change the living conditions for Jewish people? There are literally several countries (especially Arab ones) where every Jew gets killed for being a Jew. Israel is a place for them where they can relatively easily obtain citizenship and not get killed.

      • DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Actually, it started when the Romans kicked all the Jews out and to spite them renamed the land of Israel to Roman Palestina.

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          8 months ago

          That is such a warped view on history.

          Even Herodotus was referencing the region as Syria Palaestina, 500 years prior before the Romans merged two provinces together.

          Palestine/Syria was always the name, Judea was only ever a tiny fraction of that land.

          As for the Romans kicking everyone out (realistically they murdered/enslaved most), well no shit. We all have stories of the Romans doing that to our ancestors as well, the Romans and every other empire in history are famously shitty.

        • interceder270@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Actually, it started when ooga booga stole his best friend’s favorite rock.

          They’ve been feuding over it ever since.

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      8 months ago

      October 7th is just when Israel gave up pretending the cease fires actually worked.

      I’m sorry, what? You mean October 7th is when Hamas was wildly successful in their attack vs. all the previous times?

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        8 months ago

        Yes, after once again breaking the ceasefire with a barrage of rockets for the umpteenth time.