Sometimes it’s needed for other needs too, in my experience some will just blurt how complicated is to move or they will move but sometimes forget to open it to check for messages since they’d only be using it to talk to you instead of switching entirely to another platform like you did, some people are fine with the cost of isolating themselves to not worry of those who won’t put effort to contact you through your privacy-wise better alternative you are using but some will eventually burn out and give in to partially going back to said terrible platforms like Discord, it’s all about threat model. I find it easier to convince people from Discord to use Matrix but people using WhatsApp? Oh well, those you hardly will manage to convince them all for you to just quit it. How I see is in the end we are all different with different needs, some people will just happily comply with your request becauss they proudly will support you switching elsewhere for a reasonable and good reason but some will try and stop, and some will just keep insisting for you not to leave (then if you leave even if they’re insisting you not to, who would be at fault then? they’d be begging you to stay and most of the time these people are usually the ones who still hasn’t awakened to the dangers of privacy invasive platforms and just shrug it off, so they are not leaving because they don’t care about you, they just don’t get at all why you are doing it and find it pointless - which helps when you try to inform them in a long period of time about such things, but who does that all the time when trying others to switch? some find out about these issues and just want to snap into the better privacy-wise alternative asap)
FYI my reply isn’t some defending talking points not to switch but to explain from different perspectives why some just won’t bother
It is very hard to read your stream of conciousness, sorry. I did read probably half of it and the end since it had a break at least.
I am talking from experience and it is very easy to move but it is very hard to work up the guts to ask people to move your chat, i get it. And it will come with some issues. If you cant deal with them, you’re entitled to it.
My point is that not wanting or not being able to is not the same as it being hard in general. People should consider it, try it and if it doesnt work for them thats fine.
But if you move and someone tells you they wont download a less invasive app for some bs reason you know what youre in for.
And why do you think that i didnt get it? Have you ever entertained a thought to make a point?
Sometimes it’s needed for other needs too, in my experience some will just blurt how complicated is to move or they will move but sometimes forget to open it to check for messages since they’d only be using it to talk to you instead of switching entirely to another platform like you did, some people are fine with the cost of isolating themselves to not worry of those who won’t put effort to contact you through your privacy-wise better alternative you are using but some will eventually burn out and give in to partially going back to said terrible platforms like Discord, it’s all about threat model. I find it easier to convince people from Discord to use Matrix but people using WhatsApp? Oh well, those you hardly will manage to convince them all for you to just quit it. How I see is in the end we are all different with different needs, some people will just happily comply with your request becauss they proudly will support you switching elsewhere for a reasonable and good reason but some will try and stop, and some will just keep insisting for you not to leave (then if you leave even if they’re insisting you not to, who would be at fault then? they’d be begging you to stay and most of the time these people are usually the ones who still hasn’t awakened to the dangers of privacy invasive platforms and just shrug it off, so they are not leaving because they don’t care about you, they just don’t get at all why you are doing it and find it pointless - which helps when you try to inform them in a long period of time about such things, but who does that all the time when trying others to switch? some find out about these issues and just want to snap into the better privacy-wise alternative asap)
FYI my reply isn’t some defending talking points not to switch but to explain from different perspectives why some just won’t bother
It is very hard to read your stream of conciousness, sorry. I did read probably half of it and the end since it had a break at least.
I am talking from experience and it is very easy to move but it is very hard to work up the guts to ask people to move your chat, i get it. And it will come with some issues. If you cant deal with them, you’re entitled to it.
My point is that not wanting or not being able to is not the same as it being hard in general. People should consider it, try it and if it doesnt work for them thats fine.
But if you move and someone tells you they wont download a less invasive app for some bs reason you know what youre in for.