It’s a OnePlus 8T, but I think any OnePlus before I think the OnePlus 11 have excellent custom ROM support.
AFAIK I got lucky and the 8T is the last model from their “being nice to developers” era. OnePlus was born originally to be developer friendly, it was based on CyanogenMod out of the box, they even sent phones to developers.
Mine launched with OxygenOS 11, and then OOS12 was completely rebuilt on Oppo’s ColorOS and they threw everything out the window. Took them forever to drop sources, and it just went downhill from there.
It doesn’t solve Safety Net/Play Integrity, at all. My bank is the kind that just warns you and then lets you in anyway. I just live without Google Pay, I just put the card in the phone case to the same effect. The point I was making there is that most apps don’t care, Google isn’t “pushing” it, but it is made available to developers, so really it’s the app developers’ choice to check or not.
Pixels are just less fiddling because flashing it is supported. It is not endorsed by Google, and you don’t pass Play Integrity at all, but it is supported and doesn’t void your warranty. They just allow you to install whatever you want on your hardware without a fuss, and get the full performance you’d expect and all, and even make use of the security chip. But, they only trust their code and their ROM for the purposes of Play Integrity, which is kinda fair game.
That’s why it is quite ironically the device of choice for GrapheneOS. It’s not a hack, it’s a fully supported use case even though you lose Play Integrity certification, so they can implement all the security features Google has access to. The TEE will happily sign a unique and verifiable integrity attestation… for GrapheneOS’s ROM signature. You can make an app that only works on genuine official GrapheneOS the same other apps do with Play Integrity. You can have a custom ROM and properly enroll it in some enterprise MDM and all that stuff, and only allow your builds of that custom ROM to enroll. But, no Play Integrity because it’s not their official certified build.
It’s like PC, you can turn off secure boot, you can secure boot with your own OS keys and get all the security benefits. But Valorant will still refuse to let you play if you haven’t booted with secure boot into an official unmodified copy of Windows where they can ensure their kernel anti-cheat can trust the kernel about what drivers and processes are loaded. Microsoft isn’t forcing their OS on you, but the developers will only trust you if you do. You’re still perfectly free to put Linux on it, and it won’t affect you otherwise.
Because I have a OnePlus.
Gocha. I thought I had read that you had a Pixel.
Which model - if you don’t mind my asking? I managed to get my old Samsung A21s working *almost" perfectly with LineageOS.
It’s a OnePlus 8T, but I think any OnePlus before I think the OnePlus 11 have excellent custom ROM support.
AFAIK I got lucky and the 8T is the last model from their “being nice to developers” era. OnePlus was born originally to be developer friendly, it was based on CyanogenMod out of the box, they even sent phones to developers.
Mine launched with OxygenOS 11, and then OOS12 was completely rebuilt on Oppo’s ColorOS and they threw everything out the window. Took them forever to drop sources, and it just went downhill from there.
Yeah. The idea was an older one for cheap. Anything really that will allow my banking app to work.
I just lucky with the Samsung, the banking app works, but I didn’t check first.
It doesn’t solve Safety Net/Play Integrity, at all. My bank is the kind that just warns you and then lets you in anyway. I just live without Google Pay, I just put the card in the phone case to the same effect. The point I was making there is that most apps don’t care, Google isn’t “pushing” it, but it is made available to developers, so really it’s the app developers’ choice to check or not.
Pixels are just less fiddling because flashing it is supported. It is not endorsed by Google, and you don’t pass Play Integrity at all, but it is supported and doesn’t void your warranty. They just allow you to install whatever you want on your hardware without a fuss, and get the full performance you’d expect and all, and even make use of the security chip. But, they only trust their code and their ROM for the purposes of Play Integrity, which is kinda fair game.
That’s why it is quite ironically the device of choice for GrapheneOS. It’s not a hack, it’s a fully supported use case even though you lose Play Integrity certification, so they can implement all the security features Google has access to. The TEE will happily sign a unique and verifiable integrity attestation… for GrapheneOS’s ROM signature. You can make an app that only works on genuine official GrapheneOS the same other apps do with Play Integrity. You can have a custom ROM and properly enroll it in some enterprise MDM and all that stuff, and only allow your builds of that custom ROM to enroll. But, no Play Integrity because it’s not their official certified build.
It’s like PC, you can turn off secure boot, you can secure boot with your own OS keys and get all the security benefits. But Valorant will still refuse to let you play if you haven’t booted with secure boot into an official unmodified copy of Windows where they can ensure their kernel anti-cheat can trust the kernel about what drivers and processes are loaded. Microsoft isn’t forcing their OS on you, but the developers will only trust you if you do. You’re still perfectly free to put Linux on it, and it won’t affect you otherwise.
I might have to get one. My Samsung is still a bit slow - and old.
If you’re buying something to mod I’d recommend a Pixel, unless you’re getting an older OnePlus for cheap.