The conservative movement has built its case against gender-affirming care on the authority of anachronistic, faulty clinical research.

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    The other point I made in my first comment is that we live in a democracy and we know that if there’s one thing that most people are still not on board with is accommodation of transgender people beyond what is already afforded by current civil rights, which is what transgender activists ask for.

    Hence the slogan “Trans rights are human rights”. We don’t need “accomodation”, we just need the same right to bodily autonomy that’s afforded to everyone else. Opposition to trans rights is just the tip of the same spear currently stabbing at women’s rights, gay folks’ rights, and minority rights in general.

    Whether or not other people are “on board” with the individual right to self-determination is entirely irrelevant. Either trans kids can get the medicine they and their doctors agree is best, or our government has pulled a China and taken the right to make your own medical decisions away from you. There is no middle ground.

    Sorry to say but in this matter you are at the mercy of the masses, so you’ll need to convince them and I think that finding the root cause of transgender identity is key to that.

    Just like how finding the gay gene was going to bring equality to gays, right?

    No, I’m afraid I can’t take you seriously. You’re “just asking questions” and about issues that were settled over 40 years ago and pretending at reasonable dissent based on nothing more substantial than 90’s talk radio talking points.

    Again, please read an actual research paper from a reputable medical or psychological association. Take your time with it and google all the $5 science words that aren’t familiar to you. You’ll learn a lot more that way.

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        And I reject the notion that anything is settled

        This, this right here.

        if that were the case we should just stop all research about everything.

        Immediately going absurdist maximalism about it, very “I’m just making statements” sort of statement.

        What ridiculous anti scientific notion is that?Nothing is settled because science is ever evolving, especially so when social sciences are involved, because they are inherently inaccurate.

        I’m not saying we shouldn’t do research, I’m saying that our research should be oriented towards improving the quality of life, not “figuring out why queer people are that way”.

        The three questions I want answered are: what is to be done about the primary stressors that degrade trans people’s lives (I.E., transphobia), what causes hormone therapy to be such an effective treatment for gender dysphoria, and can we map the phase-space of endocrine system responses to better assist those (cis or trans) who have a need for hormone therapy?

        The available science at any moment is based on the lines of inquiry that are being investigated and very few people have investigated in the line I suggest because:

        1. conservatives are happy just erasing you entirely
        2. it is politically nuclear for liberals to fund this

        Identifying something is the first step in exterminating it, lets’ maybe not go looking for the trans equivalent of the gay gene that conspiratorial conservatives still believe to be real and instead go looking for ways to help people not be assholes to us.

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        Why the opposition to investigating anything at all?

        The opposition is because you’re treating us as a condition to be fixed instead of who we are. You’re essentially saying, or it at least is coming off as such, that “you’re wrong, I know who you are better than you. It doesn’t matter what historically has worked to make life better for you, and it doesn’t matter what your lived experience is, I know better than you. If we can just numb the part that makes you different, I won’t have to look at people like you anymore. Wouldn’t you rather my cure?”

        Pretending like people are a condition to be fixed is why you get pushback. Some people are trans, and some experience gender dysphoria. Making dysphoria less painful in some hypothetical future sense doesn’t make us not who we are. Trans men are men. Trans women are women. Telling them they’re wrong because it makes you uncomfortable isn’t going to be popular with anyone who knows or supports any trans person.