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    1 day ago

    ICE agents were being attacked. California police didn’t want to help. Trump not only have the right but also obligation to use the national guard to protect the ICE agents.

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      Being attacked? You know just a private citizen one on one can be attacked, but that doesn’t mean that lethal force is warranted. If ice agents were being yelled at and people were throwing tomatoes at them I would not consider that grounds for national guard involvement. And to be honest, unless you’ve got people shooting at ice agents I don’t even know that I would help even if I was the local police. I would expect federal officers to support their own assets in the field. So let’s get some context here who was injured how many and what kind of injuries did they sustain?

      I think it’s interesting that on January 6 our nations capital was under attack and nobody thought the national guard was needed at that point…

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        Tomatoes? You definitely get the facts wrong.

        The appeal Court has ruled in favor of Trump based on all the facts.

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            24 hours ago

            You’re having the wrong argument. Even if an ICE officer was injured,

            1. Officers get injured all the time, normal riot control will see injuries from fucking sports games, it’s not an excuse to call the national guard
            2. ICE started the violence by rolling in hot with military equipment and rounding people up by the dozen without due process,
            3. ICE could have backed the fuck off and the city, the local police, the mayor, and the governor would not have had any more trouble.

            Don’t bother. “Libertyforever” is a fascist anyway who thinks Kilmar Abrego Garcia being shipped off was a totally normal “administrative error”

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        24 hours ago

        ICE just followed POTUS’s order. Trump won the election and deportation was the mandate from the election results.

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          ICE just followed POTUS’s order.

          Wasn’t a valid defense in Nuremberg, not a valid defense here. Quit the nazi apologist shit. And further, I’d recommend re-evaluation your life choices, considering for support for the stupidest Hitler-wannabe in modern times.

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            20 hours ago

            Deportation is legal and is clearly a mandate from the 2024 election result.

            I recommend you try critical thinking.

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          18 hours ago

          . “Just following orders” is bullshit. Just because trump won dosent make every thing he says legal. Deporting people without due process is not legal.

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            18 hours ago

            Correct, it doesn’t make everything he does legal. It can be challenged in court. In this case, the Appeal Court has unanimously ruled in favor of Trump.

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          how many laws has Trump broken? how many court orders ignored?

          Trump needs to be in jail too.

          plus, there’s a lawsuits about how he stole the elections.

          “Mandate” the biggest protest in US history against him, he has no mandate.

          you reactionary brain dead idiot.

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            Anyone with half a brain knows that stupid lawsuit is not going anywhere. It wouldn’t have changed the election results. Are the left really this stupid?

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          Being in the country illegally is a misdemeanor. They also pay more taxes then every major corporation, and are a vital part of this countries agriculture industry.

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            It is so unethical to use them as cheap labors as if they are slaves. The Democrats supported slavery back then and now wants a new form of slavery.

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              The only true thing in this post is that it’s unethical. Leftists actively want them to be paid better, given more rights and receive Healthcare to improve their lives. Republicans want to take everything from them and ship them off to random countries. Are you okay with the fact that Trump wanted to send these people to countries in Africa?

              Acknowledging the fact that our agricultural system would collapse without them is not in any way, shape or form an acceptance of their conditions. If you actually care about them as much as you’re pretending to, ask yourself why the current administration is going after the exploited workers while doing NOTHING to those who are exploiting them. Does that not seem odd to you?

              And that’s not even touching the absolutely braindead take that the left were the ones in favor of slavery. You have no idea what you’re talking about and are just parroting what you’re told to think by right wing influencers. Not only is it sad, but it’s a clear-cut demonstration of everything that’s wrong with the US. Facts don’t matter, reality doesn’t matter, you feel good destroying people’s lives and you refuse to let the truth impede that.

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                Trump gave them time to self deport, if they choose not to self deport, it is really themselves to blame.

                The 2024 election results send a clear message that closing the border and massive deportation is the mandate. Trump is doing exactly what voters wanted. The left are acting like the 2024 election never happened, which is ridiculous.

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              18 hours ago

              Man you like putting words in my mouth don’t you?

              I said the situation on the ground, where did I fucking advocate for REPUBLICAN owned businesses being allowed to enslave people?

              The fuck out of here with that nonsense. Like Soulg said. I’d rather these people be paid for their fucking work, and their bosses criminally prosecuted for wage theft.

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                18 hours ago

                More like you don’t understand what I said.

                Anyway, we need to deport all these illegal immigrants so Americans citizens and legal residents don’t get to abuse their cheap labor.

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                  You realize the vast majority of the people that ICE are rounding up are literally here legally, and they are being grabbed at fucking court houses going to their legal cases, right?