A growing network of online communities known collectively as the “manosphere” is emerging as a serious threat to gender equality, as toxic digital spaces increasingly influence real-world attitudes, behaviours, and policies, the UN agency dedicated to ending gender discrimination has warned.

A growing network of online communities known collectively as the “manosphere” is emerging as a serious threat to gender equality, as toxic digital spaces increasingly influence real-world attitudes, behaviours, and policies, the UN agency dedicated to ending gender discrimination has warned.

  • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.todayEnglish
    619·
    18 hours ago

    Women have strong support movement on their side. It’s not something they gain only through their sex, but rather something they gain I think mostly due to the same gender stereotypes that also act against them.

    That seems like a self inflicted issue… What are women supposed to do about this? In my life it has usually been women begging their husbands to speak to them or to go to therapy.

    Same stereotypes which isolate men and make them suffer in silence and alone, making showing any sign of weakness a fatal mistake.

    And who propogates and sustains this stereotype? Sounds like you should be mad at men.

    honestly don’t see your point here - what commenter above you said is right, and sure as hell they didn’t mention that it doesn’t work the other way around.

    That would imply it’s not simply a mens problem…

    What are men problems, huh? Like, dunno, expectation to always go after that false masculinity. Also, as far as I understand it, what you quoted above this part is just continuation of the point above it, nothing to add here.

    The person I responded to was saying women were being targeted by capitalistic marketing… How is that a mens problem. My point is that it’s not a mens problem it’s a capitalist problem.

    Yeah, but affects genders differently. Men are eaten, ground to a paste and then spat out. Women are bellitled and their work is seen as substandard. One side doesn’t make the other any less, both are problems and commenter above you didn’t say men have it worse, just that they suffer from it.

    Lol, so it’s a class problem… Of course the poor suffer, that’s why we’re supposed to have class solidarity, not become misogynistic.

    Men do not get help. We do not have the same societal networks that women have to get together and stand up. And even if women decided to fight for us, it’s for naught until we are able to start getting up by ourselves.

    That doesn’t explain the blatant misogyny in this thread and in the youth in general.

    kay. What’s with that obsession with women? Commenter above you mentioned once that feminism can use men to portray them as evil, which they do because guess who makes them suffer most, and yet due to that you immediately went and threw everything they said as if they did nothing else but accuse women of men’s suffering.

    This whole thread and post is about the gender dynamic and the blooming network of misogyny. And because his interpretation of economics is devoid of class consciousness, he and you only focus on the problems of young men, which is a demographic and not a class.

    Women gain on current situation so it makes sense they don’t act.

    • Corporations gain on current situation so it makes sense they don’t act.
    • Rich gain, and even if not then loose nothing on current situation so it makes sense they don’t act.

    How do women gain? Who runs the corporations?

    , the incentive is for us to move our asses, take notes from women and build our own support networks. But that is actually fought against by conservatists/right-wingers, because lonely and lost men make cheap and easily influenced canon fodder.

    Who do you think runs the fucking world already…its us, men.

    So obviously nwe don’t need much support that is just based on gender. Of the people doing well right now…it’s mostly men.

    What separates us and the people who run the world isn’t gender…its class. You can’t build a supportive class network and only focus on young men.

    • sudneo@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      6 hours ago

      Who do you think runs the fucking world already…its us, men.

      I hope you realize how alienating a sentence like this is, for someone who is as stomped by society as many women are.

      This narrative is exactly what prevents any form of class solidarity, and I really can’t understand how someone can write it in the same comment where class struggle is raised.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.todayEnglish
        11·
        4 hours ago

        hope you realize how alienating a sentence like this is, for someone who is as stomped by society as many women are.

        How? How am I alienating anyone by telling them something they already know?

        This narrative is exactly what prevents any form of class solidarity

        What the fuck are you talking about? Did you not read the rest of the post… My point was that if being a man isn’t the inherent source of your struggle then it must not be the real problem…the real problem is class war.

        • sudneo@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          3 hours ago

          Saying “it’s us, men” (to rule the world) is inherently a narrative that avoid discussing the class division, because being a man is not being part of a social class.

          I might have misunderstood what you meant, but this argument is put forward quite often by certain groups that lost completely touch with the class struggle, hence my remark.

          • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.todayEnglish
            11·
            3 hours ago

            Saying “it’s us, men” (to rule the world) is inherently a narrative that avoid discussing the class division,

            I wasn’t the one who claimed white young men were being systemically oppressed… If you are examining class division through gender then it is an impossible topic to avoid.

            You can’t have it both ways. I’ve been saying the whole time it doesn’t make sense to examine class struggle through the lens of gender, my claim about “us men” was made to highlight the contradictory nature of the original claim.

            because being a man is not being part of a social class.

            That is what I’ve been saying the whole time…

            The reason I brought it up was to dispel the claim that white men were being specifically targeted in the first place.

            Did you not read the context of the post?