• Squizzy@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Everywhere is depndent on China, buy the car that isnt overtly a fascist car. They also suck.

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      buy the car that isnt overtly a fascist car.

      that isn’t really an argument in favor of china 😂

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        7 hours ago

        They manufacture everything, they are just people chilling in their country. Say what you will about their form of government but BYD havent invested in hurting people for no reason.

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        22 hours ago

        China famously doesn’t have a far-right problem, unlike the EU or the USA, what are you talking about?

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          16 hours ago

          unless you for some reason like leftist dictator who would like to rule the world more than the right one, there isn’t really practical difference in this

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            China would love so much to rule the world, that’s why it hasn’t entered any war in the past 40+ years, and that’s why all countries in the global south are happy to enter the comparably advantageous economic deals and infrastructure investments that China offers in comparison with the magnificent western democracies.

            How many countries has China bombed in the past 40 years? Let’s now make a list for the USA, see who wins!

            As for “dictator”, look at the approval rates of Xi in China and compare them to those of Kid Starver in the UK, Trump in the US, or Macron in France. I guess democracy is best represented by the system that lets you choose which hateful ghoul will apply social austerity policy and invest 5% of GDP in NATO.

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              7 hours ago

              I agree until the last part. Democracies have more freedoms allowing for more accurate polling. There is also less fear of consequences for being open. Countries should be able to defend themselves, 5% is a step toward peace. The cold war never became hot because of the investment in defence.

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                7 hours ago

                The cold war never became hot

                Tell that to the millions of people the west murdered through bombing of Korea, Vietnam or Laos, the millions more murdered though US support of military dictators such as Suharto or Pinochet, or the millions who died through the de-stabilization of their countries such as Mosaddeq’s Iran, Guatemala or the outright invasion of Iraq. Ask those people what they think of the west’s military expenses over the past century.

                Democracies have more freedoms allowing for more accurate polling. There is also less fear of consequences for being open

                Literally two days ago Mamdani won the mayoral elections against all polls, polls in the west are heavily manipulated. And literally last week a man was denied entry in the country due to having a picture of bald Vance. I happen to be Spanish, and in our super-democratic state we have literal political prisoners who had to free the country such as Carles Puigdemont due to political persecution and risking their lives in jail. The west is NOT more democratic than China at this point, and the trend is towards openness in China and towards fascism in the west.

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                  2 hours ago

                  The trend is toward openness in China? Just off the top of my head didnt Xi consolidate more power over the last 12 months and stop issuing economic statistics as a resukt of their trend?

                  I am not American, they are a shit hole country, they have never been much more but the veneer is wiped off now.

                  Those proxy wars are the example of it not getting hot. Russia and the US had so much military power no one risked direct attacks.

                  I do not support the US, Israel or any such shite but dont tell half a story and sum up with china is opening up.

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                    stop issuing economic statistics

                    Then what’s this?. I literally don’t know what you’re talking about.

                    The trend is toward openness in China?

                    Yes. China is progressively opening up, allowing things such as IShowSpeed to do livestreams of the country wherever he wants and granting him honorary visas, and spreading the contact of Chinese people with westerners through for example XiaoHongShu (RedNote) or TikTok, which is why the US wants to ban access to these apps. I’m not a US citizen either, I’m European, and the EU itself closed access to Russian media some months after the war started. You may or may not think that this is justified, but it’s quite literally the definition of “closing up”, and China is engaging in exactly the opposite.

                    Those proxy wars are the example of it not getting hot

                    I beg you tell the same to a Ukrainian or to a Vietnamese.