I’m pretty sure this is the same guy who was ranting about Godot “being woke” last year lol

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    “Not only do I not support this, I will go out of my way to tell people not to”

    “This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass”

    That’s not mild criticism in my world. About something that he did not even understand in the first place as many things he complained about was things the initiative literally said they were NOT trying to do.

    But hey. Sometimes people can be wrong. We make mistakes. But when someone refuses to acknowledge they were mistaken and instead double down.

    That’s when people get upset.

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      “This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass”

      Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn’t see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it.

      But at face value, I would still call that within the realms of normal criticism yes. He disagrees with the basis of the initiative. And disagreement doesn’t mean that one or the other party is necessarily mistaken or that they are maliciously refusing to admit their mistake if unconvinced. They can just disagree. And even if they were being malicious or ignorant or too embarassed to admit their mistake, so what? Just don’t engage, or argue in good faith. No need to swat the guy, make death threats, make weird personal attacks against him, or drag his name through the dirt across the entire internet because he is wrong or doesn’t suck it up and tell you that you are right.

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        It was said during streams, but yes, I did find a video that captured it, the clips of the quotes end at about 7 min and start from where I linked.

        https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=371

        Yes. People can disagree, disagreeing doesn’t mean someone must be wrong or mistaken. But in this case. He very much was wrong and mistaken.

        And you don’t have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.

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          Update: only just got a chance to watch it and his “eat my entire ass comment” seems not to be related to the initiative itself but to the way Ross framed how the initiative was going to be easy to make into law becuase of a bunch of really weird reasons unrelated to the merit of the initiative that seemed very backhanded and sketchy. I completely agree that Ross’s comment were incredibly slimy and cynical even as I still mostly agree with the initiative. Just seems like people are taking the comment out of that context and getting pissed over something he didnt actually say or mean about the initiative itself. And, as i said before, I couldn’t give two fucks about personal beef between creators. I know nothing about Ross Scott and have only seen him in this context.

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          Thank you for the link.

          And you don’t have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.

          Didn’t say that you are. But for some reason you are arguing with me while I’m just saying that he doesn’t deserve all that. If we agree on that don’t know why you’re concerned with my comments.

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            When you’re telling me there’s no need to swat him, that implies that I seem to think that there is. Because why else would you bring up such a negative action and explain it’s something we don’t need to do?

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              My point was that this rage mill has produced a lot of extreme negativity and this post, among others, and the comment thread within, is propogating it. And, as far as I can tell, it is over, at best, Thor taking the possibilities of this petition as written to the extreme to illustrate his concerns for its vagueness. And even if he is dead wrong, completely mistaken, and now knows it and won’t admit to it, that does not, in anyway, justify the position he is put in now. I’m not say that you personally support him being swatted, or getting death threats, but not letting this shit go after a year of bullshit, letting it fester and boosting the rage, that’s what leads to that shit. Just let it go.

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                The guy took something he didn’t understand and shat all over it to his audience, when told he didn’t understand it he did nothing at all to correct his mistake or even admit one had been made.

                And as a result he’s being clowned on. And people are finding more and more things that follow this line of behavior from him and clowning him on that too.

                If you act like an asshole. You’ll get treated like one. There’s a reason no one was talking shit about Bob Ross.

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          You act like I’m living in the same rage mill you all are. Clearly I’m not. I’m familiar with PirateSoftware, but I dont follow all this shit. It is rage that has apparently been festering over a year and I am only just learning about it over the last week or two as the petition was hitting its goal, much of which I spent 16+ days working in the family fireworks stores. I am also at work now, about to leave. I googled the quote on my lunch break and couldn’t find the video. Forgive me for asking for a source so I could see for myself.

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            Rage mill? The only one here that seems to be getting upset is you.

            This is likely the end of pirate software (at least as he was), there is no rational reason to try and pick fights over this.

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              Where do you get that I’m picking fights? I’m telling people they need to calm down over a complete non-issue. Feel free to browse my post history to confirm. Scroll past the mayo jokes and discourse around time travel and spacetime.

              And yeah, rage mill. Googling this story shows dozens and dozens of angry response videos or celebrating the SKG milestone as a victory over PirateSoftware, hundreds of hate posts calling him a liar (about seemingly everything, not just this), and a ton of news stories about the situation, about death threats and swatting and the guy stepping away from his indie studio over an opinion he expressed on a topic relevant to his work a year ago. Yes, rage mill.

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                And I am telling you (not likely the only one) that this is very much a real issue. What you are looking at is someone killing their career over the need of their ego to double down over and over. They have become a figurehead of the worst part of the games industry.

                This is not going to “go away” anytime soon, and as Thor is still digging deeper will only get worse.

                I mean this guy was just about the only opponent to this petition, he went HARD and is now being dumped on.

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                  Again, I ask. Who cares? Like you said, he’s just about the only one in opposition. The Petition is successful. His career is in shambles. Why is everyone still shitting on the guy. Why are people still posting about him and harassing him and the studio he worked for. Why not just move on even though he continues to disagree with you. How does that affect anyone now?

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                    Again, I answer. A lot of people.

                    This man has allowed his hubris and ego to destroy him, a story people like to see. The petition is not yet done and is now getting hate articles done on it (odd that). People are still posting about him as he is now the poster child of a shitty industry most dislike. The harassing of the studio he worked for is news to me (and I think a lot of people as it does not seem to have yet happened).

                    People who “move on” like you are talking about are a modern day plague, its how we get the absolute clown world we now live in. Have some principle and integrity.

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          I am also trying to figure it out, but the link you linked specifically contains quotes taken out of context entirely, choppily edited together. Personally I never trust shit like that. If you quote someone and don’t give a link to full context, it’s either because you don’t care or because you’re hiding something, and neither is good.

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            Not in the slightest in this case. He very much did say that live and also still stands by what was said. The idea that you need someone to walk you though it to such a degree is odd and likely is because you are looking for a particular reality that you can agree with.

            Like I could understand if we were talking about some event that had opposing claims here, but in this case the man in question does not even deny that was what he said. And if you want “the context” more then what was on that clip, the live stream was just that he was made aware of the campaign and this is how he reacted.

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              I doubt “the context” is that he started the stream, said “eat my entire ass” and stopped it. I bet there was hours of ramblings, like streamers do. And taking three sentences out of hours of ramblings is almost a definition of taking shit out of context.
              The irony is, the video you linked is actually walking you to conclusion. Asking for context and sources is normal, listening to a video with quotes chopped together, and believing it with no more questioning is not.

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                It was a many hour stream yes. But no that is the context, other then Thor just getting it flat out wrong and then doubling down there is not much more of that part of this story.

                And if grabbing the first video covering it on youtube is “walking … to [a] conclusion” then I guess so is this very thing I am typing. I guess we should all just stop what we are doing until someone digs up the original livestream in its totality, then at that point we can argue about if it really is the true copy…

                Come on the dood in question here does not dispute that is what he said, just the other day he thrust the knife in one more time.