• MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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      While some people care passionately about the genocide, if every single person who stayed home or voted third party over Gaza had showed up to vote, Trump still would’ve won.

      That issue wasn’t as important to the election as seemingly anyone wants to believe. Kamala lost because of the perception of the economy, which is the issue that ultimately decides damn near every election.

      Which is a fact that I think pisses off both sides of this rift. The withholders because the electorate doesn’t care enough about Gaza, and the rest who want someone to blame.

      In another, closer election, maybe it would be the issue that the election hinged upon and they would be complicit in Trump’s actions (including worse Gaza policy than Kamala). But as it turned out, in this election, Gaza was irrelevant to the outcome — as one would expect because there wasn’t much daylight between Kamala and Trump on that particular issue.

      So everyone can quit poking them with a stick. I don’t endorse their position at all, but in hindsight they have a clean conscience on the genocide and Trump.

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      Fuck off, troll.

      I voted for her because but I guarantee the vast, overwhelming majority of people you are trying to trigger didn’t think she was worse. What stopped them was having her and the Democratic party she represents ignore the will of their base on issues as fundamental as fucking genocide.

      I see it as a failure to understand game theory. However, I respect someone that is having a gun held to their head and being told to do something instinctively responding “fuck you” and refusing to do it, or doing the opposite to send a message. Unfortunately, the they are one in a hundred million and those they are trying to send a message to are too busy tonguing the assholes of wealthy Zionist donors to hear anything but their own marching orders.

    • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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      fuck you.

      no genocide should be tolerated in any ballot.

      All she had to say is that she would stop aid and weapons to a genocide and comply with international law. the democrats lost because they genuinely sucked.

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        Congrats, you’ve sacrificed potentially tens of millions while also sacrificing those you wished to save.

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            For someone so anti genocide, you sure are sounding like someone who is pro Republican, which is very much pro genocide.

            It’s so unfathomably weird that every single time this comes up, y’all never seem to have anything negative to say about the current administration, or how objectively worse it would have been to elect Fuckface 45 as a president during the election, or the very real threat that Fascist 47 represents to not only Gaza, but to the American people.

            What’s up with that? Why haven’t you condemned with the same fervor the current genocidal administration? Why are you only giving a shit about someone who currently has zero power?

            Why are you patting yourself on the back for a “job well done”?

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              that’s like saying, I hate pedophiles and someone going on a rant because apparently that means that i don’t mind Nazis because somehow people can only hate the things they explicitly mentioned in one statement.

              Of course I hate that fascist cunt. but one thing is that the nazi acts like a nazi. another one is that is opposition, the “good guys”, did absolutely nothing to prevent the greatest evils in recent history because they assumed all they had to do was to be slightly less evil than the competition, so they can guzzle up there same corporate donations that trump got while pandering about how they are slightly less evil than Trump.

              if I complain more about democrats, is because I’m disappointed and betrayed by them. and now many of them are cow towing to Trump.

              Then they fucking blame the public for not ignoring a genocide or the countless inactions they did, like waiting for the elections to try and do anything about RoeVWade, so they could have a carrot for the election rather than doing their job.

              The democrats are as much at fault for breaking democracy as trump was. All they had to do is listed to the public and not support a genocide.

              And they deserve so much anger for not releasing the Epstein files as well, because we all know many democrats and their donors are on the list as well. The whole system is broken and rotten you the core.

              And we can fix it, just not as long as we consider the democrats as our saviour. Look at Mamdani, a popular candidate with popular policies and the democrats are doing all they can to torpedo him. They aren’t the left, they are right wing with pandering.

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        I bet if I drew a swastika on your shoe…you’d defiantly shoot your own foot off, wouldn’t you?