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    4 days ago

    Time to start small-time porn groups.
    Ask your friends for their nudes.

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        1. Appreciate the natural human body as-is. Reject perfection and curated beauty.
        2. To get you must be willing to give.
        3. Some of my friends are indeed very attractive. lol
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            No one mentioned obesity except you.
            Stop projecting your own self-hatred into others.

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            There a vast amount of space between unhealthy physique and the unrealistic beauty standards in media.

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              I’ve met people far more beautiful than most you can see in mainstream media, let alone adult materials.

              (And in case one bitch with ASPD is stalking me, no, I don’t mean her ; that is, this is true for her too.)

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              There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)

              Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It’s not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.

              Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars

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                Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it’s unhealthy.

                It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it’s one of many.

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            Obesity is a result of many things. It’s mostly hereditary whatever you are born with, so the comment you are answering is right.

            Just like other cases of “unhealthy”. Just like with them, though, it’s possible to find one’s optimum in food and sports and sleep to feel better, and a person who feels better is usually more attractive.

            But looking like models you can find in the interwebs is just not possible if you are not already like them.

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              Obesity is not hereditary. It is calories in, calories out. You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.

              People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.

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                Obesity is not hereditary.

                It usually is.

                It is calories in, calories out.

                Passing through your individual system. Mine, for example, very badly processes sugars. One teaspoon of sugar in tea means I stink like cat piss in half an hour after drinking that tea.

                You dont have to look like a model, but you dont have to be fat.

                There are “fat” models, and also it’s usually not your choice as I have previously said.

                In case someone thinks I have a skin in the game - I’m as thin as a skeleton. But I have family members overweight and you really don’t know what you’re talking about, they are among the most healthy eating people I know and still their weight requires precision and discipline in their diet, both more than you likely ever achieved in life, sorry if rude.

                People who feel better are healthy because they aren’t obese.

                Yeah, it’s better to be healthy and rich than sick and poor, as they say to such statements where I live.

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                  Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?

                  Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.

                  They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.

                  Why are you taking personal attacks at me? Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much. If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.

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                    Show me where obesity is hereditary and not habit based?

                    I can’t show it to you, it’s a hard subject requiring a lot of data. But everybody having obese relatives know that they generally eat the same things and still get obese!

                    Sugar is still calories and still comes out as burned energy and processing those calories does not matter because it is still burned as energy.

                    You don’t know what you are talking about.

                    They may eat healthy but they eat a lot of healthy food which is still calories and they don’t exercise which is how you burn calories.

                    You don’t know what you’re talking about. Yep, exercise is very good, with different effects on different people still.

                    Why are you taking personal attacks at me?

                    Because:

                    Obesity is literally a self control issue. If you dont exercise, don’t eat as much.

                    It’s a different magnitude self control issue for different people. It’s a self control issue for me - if I eat only burgers for a month, I might start getting obese (more likely just die), I just have to avoid that. It’s a self control issue for my sister - if with her steamed vegetable diet she exercises a bit less, she gains weight. These are not comparable.

                    If you eat a ton, you have burn those calories or they will store up. This is the just how this works.

                    You are not saying anything valuable, that’s just how this works. Health is complex.

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                    Obesity is literally a self control issue.

                    You sound like you don’t believe in ADHD “just finish what you started, have some impulse control!“, or autism “read the room, don’t be so literal and stop getting distracted by noise and light, just ignore it”.

                    It night be plausible that most people can just avoid the first cigarette or the first spliff or the first anything, but no one can avoid food, and some people’s biology, their hormonal balance, their brain chemistry, mental health, shit, just their metabolic rate can make them have a very, very different order of magnitude of problems with food.

                    So it’s easy for you to have self control around food and balance your calorie intake with exercise? Great, good for you, but stop acting all morally superior for not having problems in your life.

                    Get lost with that judgemental “it’s simple” shit and try to learn a bit of self control yourself over what kind of nasty judgementalism you’re spouting online without thinking about other people.