• Perspectivist@feddit.uk
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      2 days ago

      How is “not understanding things” preventing an LLM from bringing up a point you hadn’t thought of before?

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      EDIT - y’all are so silly, you’re just gonna downvote this incontrovertible proof of it doing exactly what you said it couldn’t do, and instead just pretend it doesn’t exist


      Since it’s so easy to do i just went ahead and did it for you. Here’s my prompts and ai’s replies. It will write any opinion you want it to talk about, and give cogent reasonings and arguments for that opinion.

      Prompt: Write an approximately 200 word opinion piece saying that removing car lanes to create bike lanes is bad. Support this with clear arguments explaining your position

      Why Removing Car Lanes for Bike Lanes Can Be Counterproductive

      Reallocating car lanes to create bike lanes may seem progressive, but it can have unintended consequences that undermine its goals. In densely populated urban areas, vehicular traffic remains essential for commerce, emergency services, and commuting—especially for individuals who cannot rely on biking due to age, disability, or long travel distances. When car lanes are removed, congestion intensifies, leading to increased emissions as drivers idle longer and search for alternative routes.

      Public transportation often depends on road infrastructure too. Buses trapped in traffic delays become less reliable, disproportionately affecting lower-income riders who depend on them. Additionally, essential services like ambulances and delivery trucks face new bottlenecks, risking delays that can have serious implications.

      The assumption that cyclists will replace drivers ignores demographic and logistical realities. Bike lanes benefit a specific subset of urban users—but they shouldn’t come at the cost of broader mobility. Instead of eliminating car lanes, cities should consider expanding bike networks where space allows or investing in multimodal infrastructure that improves mobility for all users.

      Urban planning should strive for balance, not substitution. Redesigning streets must enhance accessibility across the board, not create new friction between commuters who are simply trying to get where they need to go.


      Prompt: Write an approximately 200 word opinion piece saying that removing car lanes to create bike lanes is good. Support this with clear arguments explaining your position

      Opinion: Why Converting Car Lanes to Bike Lanes Benefits Everyone

      Urban spaces must evolve to meet the needs of modern communities—and converting car lanes into bike lanes is one of the smartest, most equitable moves cities can make. First, bike lanes promote healthier lifestyles. By making cycling safer and more accessible, people are more likely to trade short car trips for active commuting, which supports physical health and lowers emissions.

      Second, cities thrive on efficiency. Cars take up tremendous space and often carry just one passenger. Bikes, by contrast, use a fraction of that space and cause significantly less wear on infrastructure. Fewer car lanes mean reduced traffic volume over time as behavior adjusts, alleviating congestion—not worsening it.

      Third, these changes make streets safer. Studies consistently show that well-designed bike infrastructure leads to fewer traffic collisions and fatalities. Cyclists separated from speeding vehicles feel safer, and drivers operate with greater awareness.

      Finally, this shift reflects a cultural transformation: from car dominance to sustainable mobility. Prioritizing bike infrastructure signals that our cities value cleaner air, quieter streets, and more livable neighborhoods.

      Reshaping roads isn’t just about bikes—it’s about building cities for people, not just machines. Let’s pedal forward together.

      • patatahooligan@lemmy.world
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        Your examples where an LLM is defending a position you chose for it while producing obviously conflicting arguments actually proves what the others have been telling you. This is meaningless slop. It clearly has no connection to any position an LLM might have appeared to have on a subject. If it did, you would not be able to make it defend the opposite side without objections.

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        I’m going to say this as nicely as possible, you’ve been taken in. You may think it is good at this because it appears to be and it relays information with confidence. Sometimes it even gets things entirely correct. But it is not good at these things and will often get things wrong. Important details are inaccurate or even entirely made up. It does not vet sources, and it could never do so because it does not understand anything it is relaying to you. It is a tool designed to give you a more or less visual approximation of what you requested, but it can never truly understand what it’s talking about so it is entirely unreliable.

        You’re being downvoted because you bought the snake oil and are now trying to promote it to other people.

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          Dude you’re saying nonsense. You said ai can’t defend its arguments. I provided incontrovertible evidence that it can. I’m going to say this as nicely as possible - you want to think that LLMs are unable to do anything useful so that you can hold onto a false belief about ourselves. And that is the reason why my comment is being half downvoted

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      It really can. I’ve used ai, I’ve personally seen it do it tons of times. It can make cohesive arguments backed up by reasonable rationales. It doesn’t need to “understand” anything to do this. Do you need me to write some prompts and copy n paste ai’s response to prove it to you?