Hi everyone. Probably not everyone knows but EU has CLOUD Act analogue too - it has a name “e-evidence - cross border access”. so this is a description of framework from the official site - “create a European Production Order: this will allow a judicial authority in one Member State to obtain electronic evidence (such as emails, text or messages in apps, as well as information to identify a perpetrator as a first step) directly from a service provider or its legal representative in another Member State, which will be obliged to respond within 10 days, and within 8 hours in cases of emergency (compared to up to 120 days for the existing European Investigation Order or an average of 10 months for a Mutual Legal Assistance procedure);”

basically it means that the national authorities of the country where companies are registered no longer has juducial control over law protection of their companies - so for example if extreme right government of Poland will be dissappointed with your post on Mastodon about Pegasus surveillance used by them against political journalists by new Framework they will issue juicial order to obtain your mastodon account details, ip, email etc and will electronically request your mastodon provider (which reside for example in Belgium) to give this data to them withis 8 hours or 10 days (without possibility to make appelation) basically overriding national courts of country of registration of the provider.

Do you believe that EU goverment respect right to privacy and national souvereginity as a fundamental right?

  • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    People who dislike democracy tend to like the EU indeed.

    That’s your opinion and it’s not based on facts.

    you feel the basis of society should be hierarchical and control

    No I don’t.

    It makes no sense that the executive branch proposes laws

    I’m afraid that you don’t understand how the executive power works.

    And it makes no sense that they’re not up for election

    You also do not understand the difference between a parliament and a government.

    A union, to me, is cooperative with everyone’s boundaries respected. A union to you is top down dictating who does what.

    You shouldn’t assume what I think, especially when you are wrong.

    What you propose is an alliance where countries maintain their differences, essentially the dissolution of the EU and the return to the Europe of the early 1900. Interestingly that’s the same thing that Putin and Trump hope for. You are free to think it’s better, but I’m not sure you fully understand what that really means.

    • iii@mander.xyzEnglish
      1·
      6 hours ago

      You shouldn’t assume what I think, especially when you are wrong.

      If it walk like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Perhaps you should engage in some soul seeking :(

      What you propose is an alliance where countries maintain their differences, essentially the dissolution of the EU and the return to the Europe

      Again, there’s more ways to interact with others than (a) everyone is dictated top down vs (b) dog eat dog.

      What I propose is voluntary democratic cooperation. An improvement upon the current structure with more respect for everyone.

      “In Russia they’re doing it too” is to me insufficient motivation to lessen our democratic basis and individual freedoms.

      I’m afraid that you don’t understand how the executive power works.

      How it should work is a legislative branch to propose laws, a parliament to vote on it, an executive to implement it. The bastardization of the process by the EU is that the executive initiates legislation, and isn’t directly elected.

      That’s why they can repeatedly propose the same unpopular law, without any fear of losing power.

      • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml
        1·
        6 hours ago

        What I propose is voluntary democratic cooperation. That’s all.

        I propose you to read less anti-EU propaganda. All the initiatives in the EU are made in agreement with the elected EU parliament and are supported by the member states. You should also check how the right of veto works, all the problems for the lack of authority of the EU (contrary to what you say), and what’s the legislative procedure, because you don’t seem to be fully aware of it.