• ghen@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    1 day ago

    I’m on kubuntu. I can just Google questions with ubuntu attached to the query and it tells me a gui solution if it’s available. Bonus, there’s far less people telling me I’m doing it wrong, they just assume I’m a newbie.

  • rickrolled767@ttrpg.network
    33·
    3 days ago

    The funny thing for me is I swapped to fedora after my last attempt to use arch failed spectacularly.

    I’ve found I’m at a point where I just want my device to work and work well

    • festnt@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      2 days ago

      i’ve heard a bunch of people talking about cachyos

      i use endeavour os, and when i get my pc back (i moved and haven’t been able to build it yet) i’m planning on installing base arch

      so, what are the upsides to cachyos?

      • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 days ago

        As a gaming-oriented distro, CachyOS is ready to use right out of the box. It’s similar to Endeavor, but goes a few steps further with its opinions. I’d still be using it if it weren’t for AUR’s serious malware problems.

        • festnt@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          3 hours ago

          hmmm interesting. i might use it, but now i need to know more about the AUR’s malware problems. i haven’t heard of them and am now kinda scared

  • Hellfire103@lemmy.caEnglish
    83·
    3 days ago

    The literal ArchWiki says you may not want to use Arch if you are happy with your current OS.

      • paequ2@lemmy.today
        1·
        20 hours ago

        Guix’s FOSS stance is… cool… I guess… but can be very impractical. The main channel only ships linux-libre which will give you problems on most modern hardware. I immediately had to add nonguix to get my laptop working.

        No, the reason I went with Guix is because their tools and APIs seem/feel a bit more polished than Nix. I also feel better about learning Guile Scheme because it’s a more general-purpose language than Nixlang and I just personally found it more intuitive.

        But yeah Nix is definitely more mature, has more packages, and has more documentation scattered about. Also, Guix uses GNU Shepherd instead of systemd… which… I don’t know how I feel about that yet…

        • sudoer777@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          10 hours ago

          How do you do Flakes with Guix? When I tried to use it, the closest I could get was a script using time-machine to output a lockfile, and it was still missing many other important features such as inputting other Flakes and their dependencies. Also NixOS/Home Manager have tons of configuration options that integrate with each other (i.e. Shell integrations, stylix) that Guix doesn’t have so with Guix I had to use dotfiles directly which is less powerful. Also on aarch64 Guix is way bugger and like half of the large packages wouldn’t compile a lot of the time, their lack of quality control was also one of the things that pushed me to Nix.

          The one thing I do miss from Guix though is the containerized shells.

    • Owl@mander.xyz
      111·
      3 days ago

      Almost every interaction with a boomer involving their computer/phone

      • Bluewing@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 days ago

        It’s dumb as hell to most here, but ordinary users their own ideas on what a desktop should look like that often doesn’t agree with the intelligentsia. Just let them have it.

    • Grenfur@pawb.social
      25·
      3 days ago

      Here’s the thing. When I talk to friends interested in Linux, it’s always Debian or Fedora that I suggest. I think they draw a good line for what the average user wants and needs and they’re stable. In fact, I used Fedora for a long time, and all my homelab stuff runs Debian. It wasn’t until computers themselves became a hobby that I switched to Arch. And I think that’s likely the cutoff. If you’re a computer user, stable distros are great. If you’re more a hobbiest… Well, the Arch wiki can own your free time.

      • sunstoned@lemmus.orgEnglish
        13·
        3 days ago

        “Man I wish I could do more with my new computer” – Fedora

        “Yeah I just want to breathe some new life into this old laptop and have it last me until the end of time” – Debian

        • Fizz@lemmy.nz
          4·
          3 days ago

          Normal distro -> arch -> gentoo -> nixOS -> QubesOS -> Debian pipeline.

            • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
              4·
              2 days ago

              Thats what you think you want but by the time you’re at the end of the pipeline you just want a computer that works.

              • null@lemmy.nullspace.lolEnglish
                5·
                2 days ago

                So far, that’s exactly why I’ve stopped at Nix.

                Everything is declared exactly how I want it. If something would break, it just bails on the update. If I want to set up a new machine, I just clone my config and build it.

                I’m not sure what could be more “just works” than that.

                • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
                  3·
                  2 days ago

                  When I went 24.11 it exploded in some fantastic manner. None of my boot menu rollbacks worked. I spent a long ass time trying to recover the upgrade. I eventually realized it would be a lot faster to wipe, reinstall, re-import my old home and configuration.nix and I was back up.

                  25.05 didn’t even flinch, just worked.

                  Now I’m patiently waiting for postmarket to sort out LTE modems on phones before I buy an old pixel and install nixos on it :)

              • x0x7@lemmy.world
                2·
                2 days ago

                In my experience that means packages from this century. Eventually you do need a new software for something. Trying to get software from 10 years ago to agree with software released in the last 6 months leads to breaking things or finding myself doing Linux From Scratch on top of debian or ubuntu.

                It turns out if everything is new everything really does just work. That’s why I use Artix (child of Arch). It’s less pain. You just have to ignore the myth that these systems are “hard.” Graphics cards and Steam work out of the gait. There is a reason why StreamOS is built on Arch.

                No more compile hell in the rare case you need to compile because the AUR does the same thing, but in a single command line resolving all dependencies. It’s like compiling without the experience of compiling.

                Just make sure you always pacman -Syu before pacman -S {package}. No exceptions. Or in rare cases you may have to chroot from a live disk and pacman -S linux to fix your initramfs. If you do that one thing nothing ever breaks.

  • idefix@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    1 day ago

    There is a lot of propaganda for Fedora these days. Something I see much less frequently for Arch and its derivatives. Isn’t that meme based on old facts?

    • Headbangerd17@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      It’s not propaganda. Fedora’s just that good. Been using it since 2019 myself. Never felt the need to distrohop after.

      • idefix@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        23 hours ago

        Opposite experience from me. I feel at home with Debian and Arch but there was always something wrong with Fedora.

    • MadPsyentist@lemmy.nzEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      Dosent even have to be the way you like it. It only has to be the way that lets you get work done. If you can get work done on your thinking sand tool then it is a good tool.

    • tempest@lemmy.ca
      11·
      2 days ago

      Yeah at some point they are all the same to me it’s just the different package manager. Pacman, apt, yum or whatever they are calling it now a days.

      Most use systemd.

      I started using Arch flavors because when you have brand new hardware the latest kernel can be important. After the machine is a couple years old it doesn’t really matter.

      Also Endeavouros is where it’s at (but don’t tell the vanilla Arch people, they won’t help me with my problems if they find out)

      • paequ2@lemmy.today
        1·
        2 days ago

        they are all the same

        If anyone is interested in something different, I could recommend Guix. No systemd. The package manager works different than your typical apt.

      • trepX@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        2 days ago

        Agreed. After years of Ubuntu (who remember single digits?) Endeavour OS really knocked it out of the park on my new laptop. Everything smooth as butter, out of the box. Hibernation works on a bleeding edge device. No tearing. HDR works. VRR works. YouTube 4k 60fps no drops. Games run beautifully.

        Okay, some BT issues, and the Wifi card is crap, and I don’t know how much of this is due to having an AMD graphics vs NVIDIA. But it’s sooo damn smooth. Games just work. KDE plasma >>>> gnome, and I say that as a gnome user since canonical killed unity.

        Don’t get me started on the arch ecosystem and documentation. yay 😁

        Just do what you’ve been wanting to do for a long time

    • rozodru@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 days ago

      I think when you first get into Linux it’s a valid thing. you want to find the distro that you’re most comfortable with.

      When I first started using linux I tried them all and eventually just settled on Arch because it felt right to me. That being said I don’t knock anyone who uses whatever. A good friend of mine online uses Slackware and he loves it, it works for him. There’s no “wrong” distro, it’s whatever works for you. you have to initially hop around though to find that though.

      Also distro hopping is great when it comes to helping people, especially new linux users. I’ve made many friends within the community because for a solid year I just hopped all over the place and tried to learn it all.

    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 days ago

      I switched from Ubuntu to Debian when I got pissed about something.

      But it’s not a hop, more like a leisurely walk 😀

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    16·
    3 days ago

    You can have your cake and eat it too! Just install Arch in a VM to play around with without jeopardizing the stability of your main machine. Once you feel comfortable, you can make the switch. Or not. Having choices is great.