Afiak, they are still leaving in the ADB option to install non-Google apps, for now.

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      AFAIK Graphene is Pixel-only (and only those still currently supported by GOOG), and I’m given to understand eOS is insecure AF. Add in locked-down bootloaders having become so common, there needs to be a better answer.

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        and I’m given to understand eOS is insecure AF.

        This is not entirely accurate. People involved with Graphene have been caught spreading misinformation about /e/ and Calyx many times. The head dev himself is severely paranoid, to the point he makes wild accusations against anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

        https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/53385640

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        e os is not less secure than any other Android. Maybe Graphene is better in that regard but that’s literally the point of it. e should be fine for all normal Android usage.

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        “Better answer” means “enforce antitrust and consumer protection law to punish corporations for attempting to usurp device owners’ property rights.”

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        I’d venture a guess that most people who know what Graphene OS is probably own a PC of some sort.

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        You can use Graphene’s web installer in a chromium based browser, even from another Android phone if you have one. So they don’t necessarily require a full blown PC. You can even do it from your steamdeck, if you were so inclined.

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        Those people are morons, and probably don’t care about their rights on their mobile device anyhow.

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          “Oh, you didn’t spend at least a few hundred dollars on a device that you aren’t going to use for anything except flashing a custom ROM once? What a moron!”

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            People who don’t own a PC at home are morons. To believe that they wouldn’t use it for anything except flashing a custom ROM on a device is pure hyperbole.

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              OK, what exactly does an average person need a computer for that cannot be adequately done on a phone? Because I do have a few relatives with computers that just gather dust permanently returned off, and they don’t seem to mind.

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                To create instead of consume. Mobile phone users are all tiktok brains who don’t have more than an ounce of attention and have lost the ability to create things. I know to someone who only consumes consumes consumes, that this would be a really alien concept, but PCs are there for creating things. They also do everything far more effectively than a mobile phone ever would.