• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    Awful shit aside, I thought people generally believed that you don’t go to heaven if you commit suicide?

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      It’s a primarily a Catholic thing. The reasoning is that for every sin you commit, you must ask forgiveness (confession). By committing suicide, you have committed a sin but cannot ask for forgiveness and are thus condemned.

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            3 days ago

            Hah, I meant why couldn’t the person who committed suicide ask for forgiveness at the pearly gates! What’s so special about being redeemed before death, instead of after?

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          🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ for me it’s you believe in an all powerful omnipresent and all the other Omni deity that grants you entrance to an eternal afterlife and knowing the concept of humanity is born into sin and nothing we do truly makes us sinless combined with 'Once saved, always saved" why would this one sin prevent you entry? Some would argue cardinal sins or some sins carry more weight but all sin is equal. Humans give sin a tier system. Not God.

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          No. Being able to do that was why Martin Luther had the whole problem with indulgences.

          You could pay the church to forgive a sin before committing it.

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        Most Protestants also regard suicide as a grievous sin. Some of the more liberal Protestants accept, with some hemming and hawing that assisted suicide might not send you straight to Hell. As for the fundies, I don’t believe there’s a consistent consensus view.

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        I grew up in an evangelical church, and it most certainly is not a primarily Catholic thing.

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      I know Catholics definitely believe that, but I can’t say I remember hearing the protestant sects say anything about it.

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        I was raised Baptist and suicide = hell is definitely a thing. Some sort of catch about being unable to ask for forgiveness or something but it’s definitely seen as a mortal sin.

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          Basically for Protestants in particular you have to have suicide be a hellworthy offense. Because if the only single thing you need to do to get into heaven is to accept Jesus as your lord and savior, requiring nothing else and wiping away any past wrongs, then there is no incentive not to just immediately kill yourself afterwards and go straight to heaven. It would quickly devolve into a death cult. Don’t want that cuz you can’t grift them all out of money if they kill themselves.