Israel’s rebuttal against charges of genocide was as weak in offering documented facts as South Africa’s case was powerful.
  • Haagel@lemmings.worldEnglish
    776·
    11 个月前

    I spoke with an American Rabbi the other day who flatly denied that al Nakba, the expulsion of the Palestinians during the formation of Israel in 1948, ever happened. I was shocked. It was like a holocaust denier but in reverse.

    As the conversation went on he slyly admitted that “maybe there were only a small number of people living there”. He’s convinced that the land grab is justified because it’s only a few people who were displaced. I asked him if the “small number” of Israelis murdered on October 7th is justified…

    It’s amazing how our brains are so biased towards selective information and selective history. He was obviously an intelligent man, but he simply couldn’t admit the well known history.

    I realize now that all of us have this potential to be bewildered if our bodily identities are threatened. It’s not unique to Israelis or Palestinians or anyone else. It’s a universally human tendency. That’s my belief.

    Anyway, I love all of my brothers and sisters no matter their ethnicity or religion.

    • Doorbook@lemmy.worldEnglish
      321·
      11 个月前

      You see how american media coverage of the current genocide and imagine if there is no internet where press in gaza can send images and live footages. It is super easy to skew reality with the same news over and over again.

      Just notice how every speach in the media start with “October 7” to justify the genocide. Ignoring the fact that 2million people has been inside a wall with no right to travel or access to water for many years now…

    • indomara@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      11 个月前

      “I was always puzzled by the fact that people have a great deal of trouble and pain when and if they are forced or feel forced to change a belief or circumstance which they hold dear. I found what I believe is the answer when I read that a Canadian neurosurgeon discovered some truths about the human mind which revealed the intensity of this problem. He conducted some experiments which proved that when a person is forced to change a basic belief or viewpoint, the brain undergoes a series of nervous sensations equivalent to the most agonizing torture.”

      I saved this quote years ago, I don’t remember the source, but your post reminded me of it.

  • Mrkawfee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4311·
    11 个月前

    It really felt that way. Like they were talking about a completely different situation. The Zionists are absolute masters of deception, mischaracterization and self pity.

    • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
      254·
      11 个月前

      They’re full of chutzpah, “that quality enshrined in a man who, having killed his mother and father, throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.”

  • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    252·
    11 个月前

    They have to base their defense in an alternate reality, as in this reality facts clearly speak against them.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    82·
    11 个月前

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    While Israel’s lawyers made legal arguments that the genocide charges leveled against it are invalid, their primary strategy was to appeal to the court on jurisdictional and procedural matters, hoping that they could form the basis for the panel of international judges to dismiss South Africa’s case.

    Israel’s representative Tal Becker opened his government’s rebuttal by telling the judges at the ICJ that South Africa’s case “profoundly distorted the factual and legal picture,” claiming it sought to erase Jewish history.

    Becker neglected to mention the fact that Netanyahu himself long advocated for Hamas to retain power in Gaza and worked to ensure the flow of money to the group from Qatar continued over the years, believing it to be the best strategy to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

    Shaw called this characterization as “outrageous” and said the only relevant historical “context” were the events of October 7, which he termed “the real genocide in this situation.” Given the civilian death toll caused by Israel in Gaza — upward of 23,000 as of this week — it was a stunning statement.

    Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.” Shaw argued there was “no need here for a theological discussion.” South Africa, he charged, took Netanyahu’s words out of context and failed to include the portion of his statement where he emphasized that the IDF was the “most moral army in the world” and “does everything to avoid harming the uninvolved.” The implication of Shaw’s argument is that Netanyahu’s platitudes about the nobility of the IDF somehow nullified the significance of invoking a violent biblical edict to describe a military operation against people Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant described as “human animals.”

    South Africa, in its argument on Thursday, contended that by refusing to cease its operations, Israel was ensuring that the pile of Palestinian corpses would continue to grow alongside the amputations of limbs without anesthesia and babies dying of treatable illnesses.

    The original article contains 3,020 words, the summary contains 335 words. Saved 89%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • samokosik@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    41·
    11 个月前

    This is basically the result of Israel’s super stupid actions.

    Suppose you are Israel and want to ideally get rid of Gaza. What would you do? Would you start saying stuff like some Israel’s officials did? EDIT: Would you use the same munition?

    Now they pretty much got what they deserved: they have to defend indefensible. Good luck.

  • AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social
    63·
    11 个月前

    The most worrying part of this to me is that they can’t see the cascade this will set off.

    Imagine if the protocols of the elders of Zion were true? It got millions of people killed as a complete fabrication. But the next one won’t be.

  • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1027·
    11 个月前

    Becker called October 7 “the largest calculated mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust” … to respond “to the slaughter of October 7 which Hamas has vowed to repeat.”

    …is the author implying that it wasn’t the largest calculated mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust?

    Hamas has vowed to repeat the Oct 7 attacks. Publicly, clearly, and multiple times on international TV.

    • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      355·
      11 个月前

      That’s why Israel decided to beat them? What an apologist logic you have! Does this give them the right to bomb civilians to smitten, or starve them or displace them? Not to mention preventing humanitarian aid, damaging civilian infrastructure, hospitals, etc.?

      And all of this coming from a country pretending to be democratic and lawful? What about the settler attacks, the myriad of checkpoints built by Israel? They even revoked the work permits of Palestinians living in the West Bank just out of spite. So don’t tell me that Israel is the good guy here.

    • windie@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      11 个月前

      The author isn’t implying anything. They are just using citation to explicitly refer to what Becker said.

      Example: gedaliyah affirms “Hamas has vowed to repeat Oct 7 attacks. Publicly, clearly, and multiple times on international TV.”

      • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldEnglish
        216·
        11 个月前

        Given the title of the piece, it could seem to be an assertion that these statements are not based in reality.