IDF says it ‘completely rejects’ charge that its soldiers deliberately fired on any of the thousands of civilians killed in Israeli offensive

Israeli and foreign human rights groups have documented a long history of snipers firing on unarmed Palestinians, including children, in Gaza and the West Bank.

Palestinians in Gaza also report a terrifying new development in the latest Gaza war – armed drones able to hover over streets and pick off individuals. Called quadcopters, some of these drones are used as remote-control snipers that Palestinians say have been used to shoot civilians.

  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    11·
    8 months ago

    And seriusly. Is your problem with me actually just that I dared to think about and comment on what there is to occur past Isreal stopping their fucking genocide?

    And you think my doing that makes me stupid one?

    • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
      21·
      8 months ago

      My problem with you is this shit right here:

      Are you saying every person on the side being eradicated is a saint? Are you saying all “both sides” statements are inaccurate simply because one side has shown itself to be by far more monstrous?

      This is the moral equivocation that is pissing me off. Shut the fuck up about it! It doesn’t matter!

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        12·
        8 months ago

        I literally only said that to piss you off.

        It wasn’t even the focus of the comment that set you off, yet you got so hung up on it you instantly painted me the blackest black you could find, completely blinding yourself to what my take of the situation actually is.

        There are people in Gaza who would do to Israel what is being done to them. And they were allowed to make all this worse.

        Those types of people need to go, from all leadership positions. On both sides. No. That does not mean they need to be killed, or that any part of what is being done is deserved.

        When peace is an option, you can’t have someone in charge that will say no. Not in Israel. Not in Palestine.

        • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
          32·
          8 months ago

          Buddy you said it in so many words in the first comment of this chain:

          Both sides of this conflict have some of the worst of humanity in positions where they get to decide over such things.

          They could be the most wretched beings on the face of this fucking earth and I would still support them against Israel. I don’t care how they feel or what they did. If you’re mad about the moral degeneracy of the leadership in Gaza then you have Israel to thank for that. They propped up Hamas deliberately over the more secular, sympathetic resistance groups in the strip specifically so people could make this disgusting argument. You are helping them, playing right into their fucking hands.

          • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            21·
            8 months ago

            They propped up Hamas deliberately over the more secular, sympathetic resistance groups in the strip

            I’m so sorry I didn’t specifically mention them in my lament of this exact fact.

            • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
              21·
              8 months ago

              If you lament this fact then stop bringing up how deplorable they are! They didn’t pick them because they’re actually morally abhorrent monsters, they picked them because they were counting on westerners racism towards islamic resistance groups. I guess they picked a winner!

              • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                11·
                8 months ago

                And might I point out that you could have been much more effective by just adding this context you felt I left out, instead of insulting my assumed ignorance and having the entirety of what you wanted said removed.

              • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                11·
                8 months ago

                Buddy, I’m not gonna self-censor any part of discussing this.

                I’m perfectly convinced of the imperative to stop Israel even without that.

                • underisk@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  21·
                  8 months ago

                  Great. I’m glad you’re comfortable with doing the job of the people you claim to despise. This is why I insulted you. Repeatedly. Thanks for confirming it was justified.

                  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                    11·
                    8 months ago

                    And I’m sorry that you feel the need to police others on how they talk about it, for fear it not be effective enough as propaganda.

                    And I’m not using that word in a negative sense. The truth should already make it clear to anyone, what needs to happen.

                    Your need to be choosy about which parts we mention is just sad, IMO.