• Phegan@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I am voting for Biden and everyone else who doesn’t want fascism should too, but I am so fucking beaten down by the Democrats hand picking terrible candidates, and our court system is already so destroyed it may not matter if Biden even wins.

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      4 months ago

      I mean replacing his as the candidate this late and when he’s the incumbent president is honestly madness.

      The only reason the media is pushing for it is because it would generate more clicks. Bit him being replaces and the ensuing trump second term.

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        4 months ago

        I don’t think so honestly. Biden is deeply unpopular, I think that if he were to step down soon the DNC could pretty much offer up anyone who’s not Hillary Clinton and have just as good a chance of winning if not better (depending on their choice of candidate). The people who “vote blue no matter who” are going to literally vote for any democrat who gets the nomination, so you can only gain potential voters by getting rid of Biden. There’s nothing to lose with him stepping down, the sliver of undecided voters just abandoned him after that debate and him giving the finger to the left and saying “We don’t need you.” has made him, specifically, really toxic this cycle.

        People are really underestimating how much contempt there is for Biden is at this moment, he’s polling even with Trump if you’re charitable. The genocide and his hawkish immigration policy has made it impossible for a lot of people to hold their nose this time.

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        4 months ago

        Yerp, it just reinforces him looking inflexible and old, committed more to some personal fantasy than what’s actually best for the country in reality.

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          4 months ago

          Did you listen to what he said tho? When it was coherent it was a great platform policy wise.

          He’s old. We get it. No one cares…the policy is still better than trump

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            4 months ago

            A politician claiming they support a policy means nothing in modern politics, it only matters what they actually deliver and fight for. Biden is too corporate to do anything but waste everyone’s time. He adopted progressive policy points in 2020 because he was up against Sanders but then more or less abandoned those policies after they either got shot down by his party or were employed as temporary emergency measures (ex. Child tax credit).

            Much of Biden’s left appearing policy is just a thin cover for pork barrel spending, and worse he will deliver these little bits here and there that provide nothing to build on and then pat himself on the back and sit back on his laurels like he did more than the barest of minimums.

            I’m just not impressed with his actual policy achievments or goals, when you strip away all the big rhetoric there really isn’t that much there. Biden’s not a fighter and he gives the impression he doesn’t believe in any of the stuff he tepidly pushes for, he just figures he can’t only give gandouts to corporations or it becomes to obvious what he’s there to do.

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      4 months ago

      What exactly are you saying Daily Beast got wrong here? They said he wasn’t endorsed and won. Are you saying that isn’t true? Because you also seem to acknowledge that he won that race

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        4 months ago

        He was not endorsed in the primary.

        He was endorsed in the general in 2020.

        Biden didn’t win be a lot by 2020. But he has a habit of telling anyone that doesn’t support him 100% that he doesn’t need them

        I thought it was a pretty obvious issue.

        Edit:

        I mean. He’s responding to criticism he might not be able to win the general, are you saying he was talking about the primary?

        Is this just him getting confused again?

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            4 months ago

            Can you provide a quote from the article

            So you want a quote from the article titled:

            Elect Joe Biden America

            That has a byline of the entire Times editorial board …

            To show they the Times endorsed Biden last election?

            Are you sure the headline isn’t enough?