• primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    he’s an incel who got laid. philosophically, psychologically, socially, he still is. he just got his dick wet a few times. as much as they whine about it;the difference isn’t big enough to waste valuable bandwidth defining.

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      3 months ago

      There is a big difference in a virgin and someone who fathered children.

      And no I’m not defending him. He’s a total piece of shit. Just not involuntarily celibate even if he shares some views with those who are.

      I mean just as one example of how they’re different: level of sexual frustration.

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        3 months ago

        just because he’s fucked, doesn’t mean he’s gotten any better. doesn’t mean he doesn’t hate women any less. probably resents having to fuck one for his public image.

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          3 months ago

          And I never implied any of that. Just that it’s silly to call someone a thing with a literal meaning as though words don’t matter. And yes he’s not any better off, just different.

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            3 months ago

            brevity, especially in explicitly political messages, matters. nuance WILL be lost, communication has two sides, and sometimes you cannot convey perfect truth, you need to lose a little fidelity. so “JD vance is an incel” is true enough for literal government work.

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              3 months ago

              “JD Vance is a misogynist”

              Brief and accurate. Less confusing. Didn’t need to make up anything untrue or stretch any definitions to something they aren’t.

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                3 months ago

                incel is more poetic and gives more a sense of scale. ‘misogynist’ without elaboration feels smaller, less accurate.

                its a compression issue, dear. sorry.

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                  3 months ago

                  Ugh yeah I don’t agree that defying definitions of words makes something “poetic”. The fact is that this entire thread indicates the issue, and the upvotes I got indicate I’m not alone

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                    3 months ago

                    I agree, to me “he’s an incel” is weak because to the not-terminally-online vast majority of people it’s easily proven false.

                    He’s married and has kids, he’s not any more “involuntarily celibate” than Trump is.