• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    I disagree, especially because “other than necessary” is a pretty squishy concept (i.e. selling tailored ads could be considered “necessary to operate a website”). Instead of that, I think selling or providing any form of data collected without the customer’s explicit consent (and to consent, the customer must know what data is being s hared) or without a warrant (and only the data in the warrant) should be illegal.

    That should be sufficient and actually enforceable, since it has very clear boundaries on what’s included.

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      1 month ago

      I think we’re in agreement. I could have said “technologically necessary” to have been more clear, but I don’t agree sale or sharing should be by consent. I think it should be illegal, full stop.

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        1 month ago

        I think it should be illegal, full stop.

        Then we’re certainly not in agreement. And that’s fine.

        I think sale of data should be 100% allowed, provided the customer consents (and gets fair compensation). The customer, however, needs to be aware of what data is being sold, to whom, and what they’re getting in return. Burying that 20 pages deep in a TOS doesn’t count, it needs to be in a format that an average person could reasonably be expected to fully understand. The service provider and the company receiving the data should have strict legal requirements to keep that data safe, so if there’s a breach of any variety, the consequences would be a lot steeper than a few dollars per person affected.

        So essentially what I’m after here is transparency to the customer, and actual consequences for companies that fail to protect customer data.

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          1 month ago

          The reason I didn’t agree with that is because desperate people do desperate things, despite how clear and concise information available is. With every person had guaranteed, decent housing, food, comprehensive medical, decent clothing and other needs met, I may reconsider.