• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    You absolutely were using it in that sense.

    There is literally nowhere on planet earth where humans live in any large number where you will not find Nazis.

    Claiming that Ukraine is rife with it in any meaningful sense is very much a Russian talking point, and even one of the defenses given by Russia in starting their war/genocide.

    Stop repeating Russian propaganda.

    Honestly, what is it with lemmy.ml and people who love Russia?

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      21 days ago

      You absolutely were using it in that sense.

      I was not. Please do your best to participate in good faith and not make things up, let alone make them up and then repeatedly assert them based on nothing.

      There is literally nowhere on planet earth where humans live in any large number where you will not find Nazis.

      That is true, but also does not contradict anything I have said, nor does it excuse those who repeat their racist and chauvinist talking points.

      Claiming that Ukraine is rife with it in any meaningful sense

      I haven’t said anything like this. That is your insertion.

      Stop repeating Russian propaganda.

      Please stop lying about what I have said.

      Honestly, what is it with lemmy.ml and people who love Russia?

      It’s not me, it is you doing a poor job at wrestling with your cognitive dissonance. My mere mention of Russophobia from liberals, borrowed from Ukrainian Nazis, resulted in you inventing entire lines of thought and arguments that were not there rather than directly engaging with the facts if the matter. This is defensive behavior intended to avoid what I said and return to an arena where you feel more comfortable.

      Not ironically, that arena is one where you feel comfortable being against Russia, lmao.

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          21 days ago

          Dae the LIBRULZ are being RUSSOPHOBIC

          Yes, liberals are often Russophobic nowadays.

          Yawn. Stop repeating the propaganda of a murderous dictatorship that has invaded their neighbour and is committing a genocide and mass rape as we speak.

          Russia is more of an oligarchy, like a huge number of countries that are not the current Object of Hate. Russia is not committing a genocide, that is absurd. It is a conventional modern war, which is horrific enough on its own. The US and Israel are committing genocide, however. The US is doing two at once, actually. Re: mass rape, there is little to no evidence of anything systemic, which I believe is what this would have to mean. But again, war is horrific, and rape is a common wrapon of war. No armies of Western states are innocent of this.

          Anyways I am getting tripped up in your internalized propaganda. What propaganda am I repeating, exactly, and how is it false?

          The Nazis are the ones trying to do their own little Anschluss.

          The Nazis are the people with Black Sun tats normalizing racial slurs and shelling civilian areas.

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              21 days ago

              Russia is a dictatorship. They have a dictator.

              Russia is run by its major capitalists. They just have a team captain for the political sphere.

              Russia absolutely is committing genocide, as per the UN’s definition.

              It is not, per the UN’s definition. Feel free to explain your rationale.

              There absolutely is evidence of large-scale rape. An alarming amount of it directed at children too.

              Show yiur evidence of systemic mass rape. I have never seen anything but racist rumors from propagandists.

              But I guess that probably gives you warm fuzzy feelings.

              Please do your best to engage in good faith and not lie about me.

              Again with the whataboutism

              I think you have found your “get-out-of-thinkkng-free” card. You seem positively delighted at the prospect of not having to actually contend with the realities presented.

              So Russia.

              Nopez that was Kyiv for a decade via its committed fascistic shock troops. Do you know where Right Sector went after Euromaidan?