• kava@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    How you end up on the candidates being equal on immigration is more mysterious to me. One of them is talking of mass deportation and there are still kids left over from the family separation camps

    i guess i didn’t communicate my message well enough. it’s not that they are equal. it’s that I think they are both equally impotent to stop the march of the zeitgeist.

    if you fast forward 10 or 15 years, i don’t think it’ll matter which president wins next week- in terms of immigration. people are inevitably going into camps, no matter what, at this point in time.

    One of them is talking of mass deportation and there are still kids left over from the family separation camps

    remember that Biden continued using Trump’s illegal loopholes to refuse asylum to people at the border, breaking both US and international law, while also still separating kids: https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2024/07/29/report-reveals-migrant-family-separations-continue-under-biden

    it’s done “bureaucratically” instead of “cruelly” but I dare you to try and explain the difference to a scared 6 year old

    i hate trump because of his racist comments. but i hate biden and kamala too. at least trump doesn’t pretend to care- would you prefer someone abusing you to be honest about it or gaslight you? is it really a meaningful choice?

    To be fair I think there are scenarios where Harris is less likely to get into a war, a bit like Chamberlain was less likely than Churchill to get Britain into a war

    this is frankly a reductionist take. the situation today is not like the situation in the 1930s. if anything, Biden’s approach of milquetoast risk-aversion is probably closer to Chamberlain than a hypothetical Trump presidency would be

    consider why the US doesn’t allow Ukraine to use American weapons in Russia. consider why US aid is limited to just enough to keep Ukraine alive. consider why the US has been openly pumping untold millions into Ukraine under the guise of the National Endowment for Democracy since the early 90s (and almost certainly many millions covertly, too)

    this is a proxy war for control of Ukraine. if you were to make an analogy to WW2 it would be more Spanish Civil War than the invasion of Poland