they just flaunt all this shit at us cuz theres nothing we actively do. they just laugh at us, look at howard nutlick.

I mean are they not succeeding?

And we’re early. They’re still figuring out what works and doesn’t.

Yea really. You can search “couches fucking” and get the same results. It’s yet another story that bots will post to keep you clicking for the hour. You will write “yea fuck Trump he’s such a dick” then I guess up or down vote which are about as real as the tooth fairy but give a sense of something? I guess. Then you move on to the next story.

This lemmy place is built to keep you just engaged enough. It’s not like 4chan or Facebook or even reddit where a culture is built, investigations and research are done on these things and keeps going day to day by generating new content.

Lemmy is a place to collect leftist and keep them occupied while the nazis convince your uncle that kids are shitting in cat litter and it’s immigrants fault.

Look at how they built it. It’s every corporate control reddit implemented for corporate control just ramped up to 11. Why would you all accept that? Leftist use to stand for something, it’s just a vapid and dying culture and most civil action lately has been stuff cooked up by right wing groups to jingle keys like a modern cointelpro

They don’t need to bury stories anymore. Leftist have retreated all social spaces to right wing groups. They have no network. Barely any meaningful presence. It’s a digital age and the left somehow became luddite trying to convince people to meet in coffee shops.

It’s fucking over. In my life I have never seen a more devastating choke. The left essentially controlled all digital spaces and even media. Then the first sign of confrontation where leftist had to “punch nazis” they all collectively folded and said “don’t roll with pigs we’re too good” it turned out the left had no fight in it.

Nobody knows about this on any other site.

Hey a crazy story you guys need to amplify quickly. So you’re all off the corporate hellscape sites that everybody else is on. So what’s the plan? Observe? Great job, let’s go get a soda.

Lol that’s awesome. You guys here have fucked up so bad. You’ve given every platform imaginable to the racists and bigots. Just give them this one too. Love to see it. Maybe one day you’ll all wake up to realize how ineffective and lazy this generation of leftist are and how they were just as affected by manipulations and propagandists as much as the right. The consequence though for the two are entirely different.

Nothing more cowardly than this opinion

Imagine building things without monetary incentive. But the minute you want compensation then this whole system you think you want is just childish bullshit and kept alive barely so you can innovate new tools that corporate people can use without paying for R&D.

The previous generation did amazing things. We’re the people who are there to enshittify it all by acting like a bunch of kids whose wealthy parents are dying.

The Arab spring is what it could have been. Do you think the people who control our channels just went back to work the next work? They closed all the holes that allowed arab spring to happen and you didn’t even notice.

Which version of windows is arch?

In the original comment they described having to drive hours to get to a protest. Does that sound like high effort to you.

Low effort is being able to sit at a desk compared to driving 3 hrs.

High effort is trying to rally millions into the street to face off against authority that has already solved protesting

It hasn’t worked in half a century. Protest had a greater effect before the global village. But now we have a better understanding of numbers making a show of force almost useless. We have shown up 700,000,000 for causes with practically no effect. It is a new world and it’s time to let go. We need to adapt yet there is an old guard holding us all back. It’s about spreading a message, it’s about beliefs and ideas and network and power. None of that can be achieved with protests. I would bet good money that behind many of these modern protests is actually the opposition. It is such a waste of time and effort and there is no argument in recent times that can show other wise.

You’re whole argument is detailing the internet when you actually read between the lines.

We should be choosing lower effort and maximizing for effect. Protests are high effort low effect. Online culture jamming is low effort, high effect. It is logic to anyone who thinks about this honestly

Fuck off with protests. Holy fuck. They don’t do jack shit except give the opportunity for the organizers to fill their CV and collect them like those marathon running stickers on the back of a Volvo.

Fuck

This entire time the strategy was and only ever was to protest online. You protest by building networks and creating memes and identifying when people are paying millions to convince people on the left to go commit to the most high energy low retard efforts like it described where all of us have to drive 3 hrs just to get arrested and beat up.

The internet has literally been here the whole time. Turns the fuck out that the goal is protesting is actually what is done online every single fucking day. Go figure. Meanwhile we all left social media and chose the smallest corner of the internet to exist in crying about how bad everything is. Fucking hate it here. The left fucking suck.

It’s going to get worse. Right wing governments are taking over.

They’re going to use that to grow lemmy.

You’d need to get the attention of MAGA on this if you wanted people to do stuff IRL

They’d drive a convoy around his block blasting Metallica for a week after coordinating with their friends in the police and bringing donuts to local tow companies. Maybe if you’re lucky someone on the left will flyer a coffee shop in Chicago.

We need to get better at driving people to these comments and just fucking trolling the ever living fuck out of them until their voice is drowned

“Effective” is the key word. Way to go jumping over that.

The progressive victories are dependent on MAGA shitting the bedding rather than from progressive doing the ground work. As it has always been. Where have you ever seen a progressive victory that wasn’t directly a result of people becoming disenfranchised after they realized the opposition they voted for turned out to be frauds?

Because progressives do not do the ground work. Not effectively. It’s as if taking people who are social outcasts and asking them to compete in a battle of popularity puts them at a disadvantage.

But now is a good time. The left is yet again winning victories only because the right have fucked up so bad that people now want change.