In the original comment they described having to drive hours to get to a protest. Does that sound like high effort to you.
Low effort is being able to sit at a desk compared to driving 3 hrs.
High effort is trying to rally millions into the street to face off against authority that has already solved protesting
It hasn’t worked in half a century. Protest had a greater effect before the global village. But now we have a better understanding of numbers making a show of force almost useless. We have shown up 700,000,000 for causes with practically no effect. It is a new world and it’s time to let go. We need to adapt yet there is an old guard holding us all back. It’s about spreading a message, it’s about beliefs and ideas and network and power. None of that can be achieved with protests. I would bet good money that behind many of these modern protests is actually the opposition. It is such a waste of time and effort and there is no argument in recent times that can show other wise.
You’re whole argument is detailing the internet when you actually read between the lines.
We should be choosing lower effort and maximizing for effect. Protests are high effort low effect. Online culture jamming is low effort, high effect. It is logic to anyone who thinks about this honestly
Fuck off with protests. Holy fuck. They don’t do jack shit except give the opportunity for the organizers to fill their CV and collect them like those marathon running stickers on the back of a Volvo.
Fuck
This entire time the strategy was and only ever was to protest online. You protest by building networks and creating memes and identifying when people are paying millions to convince people on the left to go commit to the most high energy low retard efforts like it described where all of us have to drive 3 hrs just to get arrested and beat up.
The internet has literally been here the whole time. Turns the fuck out that the goal is protesting is actually what is done online every single fucking day. Go figure. Meanwhile we all left social media and chose the smallest corner of the internet to exist in crying about how bad everything is. Fucking hate it here. The left fucking suck.
It’s going to get worse. Right wing governments are taking over.
They’re going to use that to grow lemmy.
You’d need to get the attention of MAGA on this if you wanted people to do stuff IRL
They’d drive a convoy around his block blasting Metallica for a week after coordinating with their friends in the police and bringing donuts to local tow companies. Maybe if you’re lucky someone on the left will flyer a coffee shop in Chicago.
We need to get better at driving people to these comments and just fucking trolling the ever living fuck out of them until their voice is drowned
“Effective” is the key word. Way to go jumping over that.
The progressive victories are dependent on MAGA shitting the bedding rather than from progressive doing the ground work. As it has always been. Where have you ever seen a progressive victory that wasn’t directly a result of people becoming disenfranchised after they realized the opposition they voted for turned out to be frauds?
Because progressives do not do the ground work. Not effectively. It’s as if taking people who are social outcasts and asking them to compete in a battle of popularity puts them at a disadvantage.
But now is a good time. The left is yet again winning victories only because the right have fucked up so bad that people now want change.
No, you can still push for change in the party. But don’t tell people to not vote strategically when it matters. What very literally the last election was people deciding not to vote for Hilary rather than people voting for Trump. And now women can’t get abortions. The Supreme Court will never side for the left for the rest of your entire life. Saudis are getting nukes. Russia and Ukraine are still at war. Plus there is a new Iran war that added thousands of dollars of expenses to bills annually. And the MAGA donors and Trump have all enriched themselves at a scale that means even after he his long gone, the government will still answer to them. The left were led towards defeat by our own people.
You people are so out of touch it’s not funny. You don’t fuck around with the big elections. You need to show small scale success and build up. You get your Mamdanis. You build networks and communities with shit you don’t believe in, not because you want them to win. You need MAGA to lose. The left are made of the worst procrastinating arch types who fail at most tasks in life. Like this needs serious self reflection. You don’t have the backing of billionaires so you need grass roots. Instead the left sit around until it’s the big game and you hope ideals push you to victory. Then when you lose you blame everything but yourselves. The reason Trump won is as much the fault of leftist voters as it is the right
No it won’t. This is such an insane comment as if you just haven’t existed in the real world for the past 10 years. Democracy is broken and when we have the landscape that we currently do, your idea is the worst advice possible. People need to lock in and vote strategically. It’s only after you have stability that anyone should do what you suggest. But until then there are serious consequences for following advice like yours. There are some things that if you fail today, you’ll never get another chance the rest of your life. Things don’t just go back to some baseline because you feel it in heart that you can ignore the current political situation. Historically it is more likely to fail and create suffering. Vote to win, not for feeling good
Who was? I think people were more excited it wasn’t PPA
I am going to assume the strategy by MAGA will be to allow this to fester. Then towards the next election they’ll start astro turfing and building communities to identify the most insane ones and then amplify those voices to their base and the general public.
Do we prepare?
No. Let it happen. Every time. Go out there and slash those tires of random people trying to get to work in the morning r/fuckcars
What don’t you believe about it?
Generate content. Nobody can know everything but if someone posts about whatever their latest conspiracy is, do you spend an hour trying to debunk it? Maybe move on and ignore? This is the bullshit asymmetry principal. They flood spaces with bullshit so that the left says fuck this and leaves. The issue with this is if anyone reads a repeated message over and over they will come to believe it. This is how advertising works. As long as you’re not diametrically opposed, it’ll become something you see as fact. So one way AI can be used is to make the bullshit less asymmetrical.
Just today I had to look up about CAF banning “god” in the military. I can quickly search how factual this is and find direct sources for what AI says. Under 5 minutes I can have a pretty good argument based on facts with sources. AI closes the bullshit asymmetry problem and returns digital platforms to the left instead of conceding these public spaces to the right
That doesn’t even make sense here
Just because the roads were built by the crown doesn’t mean I shouldn’t use them. They’re here. One thing that oligarch bow to more is money. If the left were smart they’d be the main users again of these platforms to influence the oligarchs to our concerns. But this is why the right have been paying to get the left to remove themselves from that position for the past decade. It’s been very successful
Lol the said the same thing for every advance in technology.
They said the same for books in fact.
So can you show me with evidence this is occurring. If not, I would say you have a similar pattern to how the right get all bothered by immigrants. That this belief stems from a series of online media that targeted certain groups for maximum effect
I don’t see humans being any better. I would rather use the tools available to give us power rather than deny that and give them power over us.
I fully believe this modern luddite behavior on the left was taught to the left through propaganda with the goal of hobbling it. The longer they can keep you away from the tools they’re using to shape the world the better.
Which version of windows is arch?