

I will also point out that the idea of a pre-tribulation Rapture is not biblically well-supported, and was pretty much made up out of whole cloth by dispensationalists in England as a way to make the idea of a doctrine focused on Revelation more palatable (“see, you’ll be taken to heaven in secret one day before all this happens”). It’s taken a LOT more root in America than it did in Europe, to the point that it’s mainstream doctrine among a lot of churches (thanks Tim LaHaye and Jerry B Jenkins for doing that, you weird fucks).




Arguably, there would be decent historic precedent for excommunicating Vance RIGHT NOW.