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  • I read the article. In-fact I started this thread asking for clarification to whom these laws apply. Then you went off on a tangent about Zuckerberg and implied i’m a “chud.” So let me state how I think these laws apply, tell me if this is correct.

    The Nation of Brazil passes a law that says the users of a website have to abide by Brazil’s laws. I don’t know what they meant by that, I assume lemmy.ml that is not hosted in Brazil isn’t expected to know nor care about what Brazil’s laws say. But if that were the case, then Facebook also wouldn’t be expected to know nor care about what Brazil’s laws say. The citizens of brazil that use facebook? Sure, they should be subject to those laws. But why should any other entity that exists outside of Brazil be obligated to know nor care about Brazilian law?

    Those details seem pretty important, and the article doesn’t address them at all, it merely says that Brazil’s supreme court says that website are required to “deplatform” and “delete posts” of users who broke the law. But why should lemmy.ml abide by brazilian laws?



  • That is the natural extension of your line of thinking is it not? Which users are “persecutable” by brazilian/Israeli law? If it’s not just the citizens of Brazil (which i’m ok with, obviously a nation should be able to pass laws that apply to their citizens) but everyone “persecutable,” doesn’t that mean that a country that is sufficiently able to persecute anyone in the world is now justified to enforce their laws upon the entire world?




  • In 2014, after years of debate, Brazil’s Congress ratified Law 12.965/2014, the Internet Civil Framework. This law required social media companies to delete posts and deplatform users who broke Brazilian laws. However, it placed the burden on Brazilian courts to identify the posts and accounts.

    Is this meant to apply to all “users” of the platform or only Brazilian Citizens?

    If it applies to Brazilian Citizens, that’s all fine and good. But if I break brazilian law by criticizing their government, is lemmy.ml expected to “deplatform” and “censor” me?







  • If Google had built nucler power plants 10-years ago, there would be zero emissions. If California had done it instead there would also be zero-emissions, if the federal government had built nuclear power plants we’d also be at zero emissions. If all anti-nuclear people had killed themselves in 1979 we’d be net negative with emissions.

    Practically unlimited demand is fine if the source doesn’t use fossil fuels to begin with, so I don’t see how this is an “AI” problem. It is, of course, a capitalism problem though.







  • Like most things on the internet it’s a game of one-upsmanship. User X uses Firefox with Incognito. User Y say’s that isn’t good enough for his own inconsistent definition of “good enough.”
    So User-Y suggests Firefox with 14 different add-ons and only browse through an immutable VM. But then user-z comes along and says that if you are using windows at all, you don’t really care about privacy, so you should be using Icefox on some obscure fork of ubuntu through an immutable VM, with a pi-hole.
    Then user-w says well if you aren’t using a VPN none of this matters, so Obviously you need to rent an Alibaba cloud server hosted in China, that you only connect to through a privacy respecting VPN, and then you only browse through TOR.

    And so on. By the time a user is asking about how to stop google ads, the only “serious” answer by the community involves using Packet over Ham-radio -> and spending thousands of dollars a month on 4 different cloud providers, rented through several shell companies set up in Switzerland, the Cayman Islands and China, while only typing in Esperanto using an ASCII-only font.