Redcat [he/him]

Ukraine to defend themselves.

Do you think the people of eastern ukraine have a right to defend themselves?

china dominates the consumer goods market, period. by these standards the chinese have been supplying every NATO war for the past 20 years.

they would never attack germany. its too risky.

ok there were no risks involved. even if they bombed the pipeline, they will surely pay reparations.

ok they won’t ever pay reparations. but its not like they have to. we were never going to use the pipeline anyways!

i wonder what’s next

Why would I have a positive opinion of yanks in the future?

Why ask about the future, when it’s a mystery in the present as well. You’re the one who thinks they’ll pay reparations for something they think you deserved.

You weren’t supposed to buy cheap resources from Russia. You never had the permission to.

To be fair, the democrats were absolutely bloodthirsty when Obama was elected warlord and he waged war against the peoples of Syria and Libya. It’s a bipartisan problem affecting both liberal parties.

I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money

‘thank you for your service’, you say when someone describes their career pushing paper in the afghani legation quarter

But realistically speaking the US would probably willingly pay damages and reparations.

you really do live in an alternative reality. This is the most insane thing you’ve written in this entire conversation. And even so:

Materially or in some diplomatic quid pro quo manner and all of that is going to happen behind closed doors and we’ll know once records get unsealed.

It’s just a cover for how reality slowly sets in. You went from believing that the US would never attack Germany to saying that, actually, the US would totally pay reparations for bombing Nordstream. They’d just do it behind closed doors in order to save face.

You’ll get nothing, and you’ll be happy to pay all the damages yourself, my friend. And once the records are unsealed you’ll be in your 60s, swearing up and down that such skullduggery from the Americans are in the past.

As a third party can see, the risk to the Americans really was zero. Everything to gain, nothing to possibly lose. What, are the Germans gonna rebel somehow? They’ll fall over themselves to pretend the chains aren’t even there.

it was the standard foreign aid the US throws around to advance it’s interests.

It’s quite telling that the US has triggered so many coups around the world that you can call it ‘the standard foreign aid’. How the hell do you think coups come about?

What? There was no risk and there was a ridiculous amount of money to be made. You have people in the intelligence community talking since the early 2000s how important it is to ‘empower poland, to drive a wedge between germany and russia’. The Americans had been threatening to ‘do something about’ the pipeline for years. And when they did it, the pan European media blackout made sure there was no risk involved. You yourself is a proof of that.

Meanwhile Europe will deindustrialize while paying hand over fist for American gas. They must also continue to dismantle their welfare state and spend that money in American weapons. But european governments don’t care, they are all personally invested in american investment funds shares anyway. Why else would the german foreign minister claim that the opinion of german voters are not relevant to her?

Vassals at least had a two way relationship with the King. This is borderline colonial.

comment number 5 by guy who definitely wouldn’t waste his time and was definitely not owned

Tfw they are so right you gotta block them at first sight.

what do you expect will happen if you stop funding Ukraine defense against war crimes? You think Russians just go home?

The Russian Ukrainians will be able to stay in their homes without fear of genocide by the NATO backed government.

Sure, we can joke about this but consider, that if I or anybody I know thought like that we simply wouldn’t discuss politics at all. As that’s something that liberals and fascists also do.

So you’ve watched enough american media to believe that political memes are something that Russians do, and that they totally destroyed american democracy with those memes? Well, I’ve seen more than my fair share of NAFO and americans online making memes about how non westerners should all be genocided. That won’t keep me from making fun of a fascist like Ron DeSantis with a meme.

is there anything else that you refuse to do because russians potentially do them as well?

Yes, you know that the US can do almost anything it wants and that it won’t trigger a war with Mexico. It can sanction thousands or millions to death by starvation and lack of medical supplies. It can bomb people. It can seize and occupy territory if it really wants to. Not because the US wouldn’t be waging war then, but because the Mexicans and the rest of latin america are too weak to fight back. And in knowing this you can then claim that, actually, ‘this is misleading 4/5 pinocchios Ron DeSantis only wants the right to do a little gunboat diplomacy with capital punishment characteristics and that’s not really a war’.

I’m sure that if China drone bombed someone in New York the Americans would be super chill about it.

Trump made Hillary eat so much shit over the Iraq War, and here you’ve got Ronny saying he wants to jumpstart the greatest refugee crisis in the world right at the border.

Why do you think your base wants a wall, Ron?

again,

The United States is not an arbiter of which Mexicans are to be extrajudicially executed by drone strikes. You’re acting like a coward who’s only too happy the Mexicans are too weak to strike back.

On balance, the West is a far better influence on the world

NATO has bombed and destroyed not just Iraq, but the majority of the middle east. It runs an occupation force today in Syria. NATO didn’t just destroy Iraq, it colonized Iraq’s agriculture, which is now dependent on imports from NATO while it feeds pasta to Texan schools. NATO has transformed Libya into an open air slave market, flooded Syria with weapons, backed Israeli Apartheid, blockaded Iran, couped the government of Pakistan, and caused a famine in Afghanistan on their way out by sanctioning yet another people. The little girls whose rights NATO countries cared about so very much then starved to death. Not for any reason, not to achieve any objective. But only out of spite.

NATO has couped and propagandized it’s way across Latin America. This is not ancient history. It is current and ongoing. It claims outright that they won’t stop blockading Venezuela until it’s oil is owned by american shareholders. So not only bombs, deaths by starvation and lack of medicine are perfectly fine for the organization. Just as Syrians and Chinese people have no right to territorial integrity, Cubans have had no right to ally with whoever they want for generations.

NATO runs an actual and currently existing Colonial Empire across Africa. One of it’s leading voices, France, owns the infrastructure, finances and natural resources of dozens of countries, assassinating its way into total dominance. Then it gives some scraps back to those colonies, and calls it ‘Foreign Aid’. Berating the poors for being so dependent. Once challenged, NATO has yet again chosen to starve people to death with trade wars on basic infrastructure, food, and medicine.

I’m Brazilian. When the Bolsonaro family was literally calling Chinese monkeys on twitter the Chinese were remarkably patient. The USA berates us for being ‘anti-american’ because we aren’t grateful of how Biden chose not to coup us last year. As if it’s not humiliating enough that a fascist in this country can draw on the history of America and outright ask the CIA for help staying in power. There are now US troops supporting the coup government of Peru. Right after coup attempts in Bolivia and Venezuela. We now watch as high ranking US government officials float the idea of invading Mexico, under the cover of a war on drugs. After years of waging it in Colombia and Central America. But we all know it’s because Mexico nationalized stuff that Americans don’t want to see owned by Mexicans.

There are no fucking standards for comparison. There are no regions of this world which do not witness current and ongoing hybrid wars waged by NATO countries at the behest of the USA.

The West is a defensive alliance between warmongerers. The Americans at least have the decency of wearing their thirst for blood on their sleeve. Democrat or Republican, they’ve all had their share of wars they enjoy supporting. It’s the Europeans who will cry on TV while sending volunteers to Iraq and Afghanistan.

I only pray for any people who is targetted by NATO’s eye of sauron. Or has to make do with sharing a border such an evil collection of governments.