Yes, but when you add a whole other testament, featuring even more teachings of Christ, than surely there’s something distinct about that theological baseline of Mormons from your average Christian

You don’t genuinely believe that the only people who circumcise their babies are people who believe in God, do you?

What part of atheism is dangerous? They just don’t believe in a god(s).

I’m not saying Atheism, the lack of god belief, is dangerous. I’m criticizing the position that religion is somehow the source of the world’s problems.

Also, what qualifies as “New Atheist” and why is it cringe?

The “New Atheist” movement of the 2000s was a reaction, on the one hand, to a genuinely problematic encroachment of Evangelical Christianity into American public life.

On the other hand, a blanket unnuanced opposition to religion as a concept, caused a lot of these ostensibly liberal atheists to be cajoled into supporting the same War on Terror being Championed by the Evangelical Christians they opposed so much.

For the New Atheist, Islam was, “the motherlode of bad ideas” and that we should be waging wars in the middle east, not because of Gog and Magog or whatever Bush was on about, but because Islam was illiberal, and that the US should impose secular liberalism in places like Iraq, by force.

New Atheism got a lot right about the ways reactionary religiosity was damaging at home, but ended up walking hand-in-hand with those same people, when it came to blindly supporting disastrous US foreign policy.

And I’m calling if cringe, because is the same millieu that birthed the sterotype of the fedora tipping le euphoric Reddit Atheist. Many of whom would themselves go on to be the exact kind of “anti-SJW” online influencers who would help meme Trump into the Whitehouse in 2016.

I’m not familiar with Terry Eagleton - is he part of the New Atheists or is he some critic of it?

Eagleton is an Atheist, but is also very critical of the New Atheist movement. Both for the reasons of supporting US imperialism like I mentioned above, but also because he takes issue with the philosophical underpinnings of the movement.

Essentially, he argues that New Atheism is premised on a set of category errors, wherein they misunderstand religion as a primitive version of science, which means they misunderstand modern American Protestantism, and then apply their critiques of that misunderstood Protestantism across all religions, without actually meaningfully understanding or criticizing any of it.

He has a book about this called Reason, Faith, and Revolution: Reflections on the God Debate, if you’re interested

Atheists also can be dangerous to society. What is this New Atheist revival shit? It’s fucking cringe. Go read some Terry Eagleton and come back later

Is that the only thing that matters in defining a Christian? Mormons have a whole other testament, which no other Christian denomination does.

Is it in continuity with Protestantism? Yes, but I think the addition of a whole other holy text is enough of a ruptural break from Protestantism to consider it something new

One of the first things I did, when I installed Linux Mint, was install a port of Space Cadet Pinball

This is privilege

Yeah, so I’m trans, and we too are under serious threat, not just from MAGA. It’s not privileged to recognize that mainstream Democratic party opinion is that trans people should be thrown under the bus to appease some mythical centrist voter.

Consider the inverse, that it is a priviledged position to be able to hem and haw over every election in a rapidly decaying pseudo democracy, as opposed to doing the very difficult work of workplace, tenant, or mutual aid organizing to secure immediate material necessities.

I like unions, but not uncritically. The AFL-CIO suppressed left-wing labor movements in Latin America during the Cold War, something I find reprehensible.

You seem to have an awfully black-and-white view of the world.

Leftists demand moral purity and then end up with an actual Nazi instead being elected.

You’re voting for the guy who had an SS tattoo. Pot, meet Kettle.

How about when Kamala Harris ran and instead of voting for her, a bunch of leftists sat home and let Donald Trump win instead to teach her a lesson.

A lesson libs like you clearly have yet to learn. Kamala alienated parts of what should have been her electoral coalition, because she wouldn’t distance herself from Biden who was deeply unpopular, wouldn’t take a proper stance on Palestine, and adopted Republican border policy. Running to the right doesn’t work.

To platner’s credit, he’s not doing that (ot at least hasn’t yet. We’ll see what he does if in office), but he’s a controversial candidate for good reason.

Also, you need to understand that people are capable of making mistakes and growing from them. Making one mistake in your life doesn’t disqualify you from ever participating in anything ever again. Get the fuck over it.

I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment. I don’t think anyone is beyond redemption. I’m a prison abolitionist ffs. But if you can’t see why the SS tattoo might give people pause, you’re just not taking a sober look at the situation.

You people have no plan. Your solution is what? Don’t vote or vote for Susan Collins? Either way, you’re supporting the Republicans and therefore supporting Trump. You are therefore my enemy.

Ok, take a deep breath, and chill out. I am a stranger on the internet. You don’t know me, and you don’t know if I voted, or who for. Voting is a tool. It is one singular means of political engagement. Not every election is the most important election ever, and whether someone chooses to vote for someone like Kamala, or Platner, is up to them. Those people aren’t necessarily your enemies, they’re people who’s conscience told them to take a position different from yours.

Unionize your workplace, if it’s already unionized, get involved. Canvas for a ballot measure, or attend a city council meeting. Find a mutual aid network in your area and hand out food or hygine kits to the homeless. Opposing Trump is sometimes about voting, but it’s also about building something beyond the systems which allowed him to come to power in the first place.

Look, I get the point you’re trying to make, but I can’t begrudge anyone for being skeptical of the guy who got a Nazi SS Tattoo.

Maybe pick a different example next time?

Yeah, I’m not reading all of that. Suck my girl dick

Why thank you! My shrug has an arm again lol

And I continue adding cool shit to my Jellyfin server ¯\(ツ)/¯

For as much as your average American loves big government conspiracies, and harping about other people violating the sanctity of their property, they have absolutely no actual privacy and security sense

So… How does it taste?

I somehow managed to avoid the really heinous stuff like beheadings, but I do remember a lot of the classic shock websites.

Apparently the cock from MeatSpin belonged to a trans woman porn star. So that’s fun, I hope she’s doing well, whoever she is.

Send his ass to the middle east, so he can become the leader of the IRGC, be declared the Mahdi, topple the American Empire, and then take over the world

The king of Scotland will be killed by a man not born of a woman… And also he can legally smoke 😎

forcing many users to consider the unthinkable

… Death???

That’s definitely a thing I enjoy about lemmy! Old forums were nice because they actually felt like communities. The Centralization of the Internet has meant that it’s just a faceless mass of people (and sometimes robots) popping off their hottest takes at every single moment