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  • This article is about hiring, not marketing

    It’s been some years so I should see if this information is still valid but when I researched it years ago woke marketing basically boiled down to the fact that people are not going to buy a product they don’t want or need just because they like the company that makes the product; but if you were going to buy the product but you don’t like the company, you will purchase from a competitor

    So there was some truth to “go woke, go broke”, although I couldn’t find any evidence of a successful company, “going woke” and ending up bankrupt. Usually these companies were already struggling and woke marketing was a last-ditch effort to bring in a new customer base

    I like to use a Jack Hammer as an example because it paints a clear picture. If a company makes a Gay Pride Jack Hammer you’re not going to rush out and buy a Jack Hammer you don’t want or need just because you support the cause. But if you were going to buy a Jack Hammer you’ll either still buy the Jack Hammer (meaning the marketing had no effect because you were going to buy it anyway) or you’ll buy a Jack Hammer from another company because you dislike the message

    So “woke” marketing had either no real effect or a negative effect.

    Companies that already had a strong liberal supporting audience could increase sales temporarily. Like if the average Cards Against Humanity player buys one expansion pack a year the company might get that person to buy two expansion packs this year if one of those packs is a pro Gay Pride pack of some kind, especially if the back supports or charity or something. But that person is not going to continue to purchase two expansion packs a year so after the promotion is over, sales return to normal

    However, “going woke” was good for the companies image. As an example, while sales for the Gay Pride baseball game night might be the lowest all season, every year, it’s still better to do it and take the ticket sales lost than not because you don’t want to be one of the only teams that didn’t participate. Being the “transphobic” baseball team is not good. Overtime that can hurt sales, especially if the wrong group of people celebrate your stance against pride night

    The last thing you want is a bunch of MAGA hat wearing racists to start rocking your teams jersey as their unofficial uniform. So companies should go woke just to let the world know they’re not OK with bigotry.


  • This is about hiring, not marketing… and while I’ll have to check because it was some years ago, when it came to marketing I found the opposite was true; but not for the reasons you would expect

    That being said, it was still better to “go woke”, than not

    Basically it boils down to the fact that people typically will not purchase a product they do not want even if they support the company that makes the product

    But people who do want the product will not buy from a company if they do not support that company

    So as an example, if a jack hammer company “goes woke” and sells a gay pride Jack Hammer sales won’t go up because very few people are going to go out and buy a Jack Hammer they don’t want or need just because they support gay pride. However, those that do need a Jack Hammer will either continue to purchase the Jack Hammer (meaning the woke marketing had no effect because he was already going to buy the Jack Hammer) or they will buy a Jack Hammer from a different company because the “woke” marketing upset them

    Companies that already had a strong liberal backing, like cards against humanity, could use “woke” marketing to increase sales, but only temporarily. For instance, if on average a Cards Against Humanity player buys one expansion pack a year, you might be able to get that person to buy two if you make a special time “Gay Pride” pack. Sales will increase for that quarter but then go back to the average after

    But it can still be beneficial to “go woke” just to protect your companies image.

    For example, “Gay Pride” night at sporting events are usually the worst selling nights. The reason is stated above. You’re not going to go to a baseball game if you hate baseball and those that like baseball will choose to not go on Pride Night if they disagree with the cause. But, it’s still better to have a Pride Night than not have one because being the only team that did not have a Pride Night is a bad look. You don’t want to be known as the only bigoted baseball team in the league

    This can be really bad if by some pure chance the wrong group of people support your lack of Gay Pride Night and adopt you as an unofficial spokesperson. The last thing you want is a bunch of MAGA hat wearing transphobic bigots wearing your teams Jersey as part of their unofficial uniform.

    It’s better to lose ticket sales on a game or two than wake up and find out that your companies hat is now the hat of choice for the proud boys.

    So you go woke to let the world know you are not ok with bigotry




  • They did investigate, they said it was suicide. You’ve just decided on your own that this is untrue

    I asked what proof you had and you said none, just a gut feeling that it was suspicious because they were black and not only hanged, but hanged outside. Turns out people track this kind of information so we could look it it up to see if you were right. You were wrong. Not only is hanging still an extremely common form of suicide (even for black people), but doing it outside is the preferred method.

    This is how you are suppose to live your life. Walking around assuming everything is a racist conspiracy based on a hunch and that you can trust everything every famous person says is how you end up stupid




  • It’s not that the police don’t have any information, it’s that we, the people on Lemmy, don’t have any information.

    The police said “suicide” and that’s where the story stops. You’re just assuming there is more to it but you don’t have any proof that there actually is

    The article says one case even the family agrees is suicide. Another case the family agrees the victim was being bullied and so suicide is a strong possibility. One case the police have a suspect and it’s her boyfriend but there isn’t enough evidence to charge him. One case was so new we didn’t even have a name yet

    According to the CDC about 12,000 people a year hanged themselves. You don’t think any of those people are ever black?

    You’re just assuming these are all racially motivated cases of murder that the police are covering up… but you have zero evidence of that

    And even if it were true it’s 4 cases over 8 months across the entirety of the United States. Not exactly the kind of thing that warrants national attention


  • Or there just isn’t any information because it actually was suicide

    Again, one of them the family agrees probably was suicide. One of them the family admits that the victim was being bullied and so suicide is a strong possibility. One of them is probably murder there just isn’t enough evidence to prove it. The fourth case was so new we didn’t even have a name

    The other four we have no information on. It’s not that the police don’t have any information, we, the people of lemmy, don’t have any information on them. All we know is that the police ruled it suicide. We have zero evidence that the police didn’t investigate or that there were signs of a struggle and the police covered it up… all we know is the police said, “suicide”

    Which isn’t all that shocking because according to the CDC about 12,000 people a year commit suicide by hanging themselves. You don’t think any of those people are ever black?

    And even if there were signs of a struggle that the police ignored we still have zero evidence that the murderer is white. Black people can’t hang each other? Hispanic people can’t hang black people?

    It’s ironically racist to just assume that it had to be something only a white person could have done. Like saying every time you hear a story of someone getting shot you just assume the trigger man is black. Doesn’t matter what color you skin is, people are people. Anybody could have done this, including the victim themselves

    So the only way this matters is if it turns out all four of the remaining cases turned out to be racially motivated murders committed by a white person but even then, it’s four people across 8 months over the entirely of the United States… not exactly the kind of thing that needs nation wide attention


  • The problem is that we don’t have any information

    Conspiracy people are going to say it’s a cover up but also it very well could be suicide or non-racially motivated murders

    In that article the family straight up agrees one case was suicide, and in another case the family admitted that the victims was constantly being bullied, so good chance for suicide there too

    The latest case in that article was so new we didn’t even know the victims name

    That’s 3 out of 7 all year.

    One case the woman left town for a family reunion and while no arrest was made her on-again-off-again black boyfriend was questioned and witnesses say that two had gotten into a fight the day before she was found. He was a felon who was currently set to appear in court for felony possession of a firearm.

    So maybe 4 black people were hung due to racism. More likely, if any, it was 3. But also, maybe not. Not only do we not know any of these were murders, but we also don’t know it was a white person that did it even if it was murder

    and you’re talking about a problem that is, at most, 7 people across the entire united states over 8 months





  • Hey, some sane “anti-AI” stuff on the internet!

    I use the example of a carpenter

    I go to work and I build chairs. It takes me all day to build one chair. I carry shit, I cut shit, I sand shit, I paint shit, I hammer and nail shit, etc… at the end of the day I’m hot, I’m dirty, I’m tired, and somewhere along the way I hurt myself a little bit so I got some minor scrapes and bruises

    But I sit back, look at my chair, and I’m proud. That’s what I do. I make chairs.

    It’s not glamourous, but that is what I do. I am a carpenter. Not just by profession, but by choice. This is what I wanted to do. It’s what I became. I’m a father, and I’m a soccer fan, but also, I’m a carpenter

    Then along comes a robot that can build a chair all by itself. This is great! Just because the robot can build a chair all by itself doesn’t mean it has to. What it does mean is that it can help me build a chair. If I need help carrying the wood, it can carry the wood. If I don’t want to sand, I can tell it to sand. It’s not a “wood carrying robot” or a “sanding robot”, it’s a “Chair building robot” and now I can ask it to help me with any step along the way

    But then my boss finds out about this chair building robot. Suddenly he doesn’t want me to build the chair at all anymore, he just wants me to tell the robot to do it

    This is sad. I’m no longer a carpenter. I’ve lost the meaning in my job.

    I go to work, I tell a robot to build a chair, I just sit back and correct any mistakes it makes.

    But hey, if the robot can build a chair in 30 minutes, and I’m only responsible for one chair a day, I guess the good news is that I get to keep my job, I make the same amount of money, but now I only have to work for about an hour a day. Clock in, tell the robot to build a chair, watch it for 30 minutes, fix it’s mistakes, clock out. Same money for an hours worth of work

    Nope

    I’m now responsible for 9 chairs a day

    9 chairs! We’ll I’ll get 9 times the pay right?

    Nope

    So I keep my job, I make the same amount of money, I work the same amount of hours, but also my job gives me zero satisfaction in life and now I’m responsible for 9 times the amount of work. Also, I’m no longer a carpenter

    Again, that’s what I wanted to be. I went to school for it. When I was younger and they asked, “what do you want to be when you grow up”, I said, “a carpenter”. I was a carpenter. I was happy. My boss took that from me. He didn’t fire me, he just took away the position of “carpenter”.

    How is this a good thing?

    OK, well, I’m an optimist. Times change I guess, you can’t be a guy that makes cannon balls forever. Lets see what the future hold. I go to work, I tell the robot to build the chair and now I got nothing to do for 30 minutes. Neither do my coworkers. So we bring in some TVs, we set up some chairs, we play Mario Kart and watch soccer matches while the robot builds the chair. Every 30 minutes I have to get up, inspect a chair, and tell the robot to build it again, and then it’s back to Mario Kart

    At least my job is much more enjoyable in that sense I guess. I laugh at a lot more at work

    Then my boss comes in and sees us all standing around laughing, playing video games, and watching TV. He’s sees us happy

    He’s big mad

    But why? We’re each producing 9 times the amount of chairs in the same amount of time for the same amount of money using the robot he wanted us to use. How is he not happy about that? He’s getting more chairs in the same amount of time without having to pay anyone any extra money.

    He’s big mad

    The next day I come to work and there’s a big console with 200 buttons on it. Each button tells one of 200 robots to build a chair. It takes me 30 minutes to push all 200 buttons. By the time I’ve pushed the last button, it’s time to push the first button again

    Now I go to work, I work the same hours, I make the same pay, I make 3,200 chairs a day, I have zero job satisfaction, I have zero fun, I’m not a carpenter

    Then my boss has the nerve to get on Social Media and post: “Chair building robots are great. Imagine life without them, how awful!”

    AI is a great tool for doing all the boring shit you don’t want to do. It’s great for automated process, basic code reviews, pipeline management, etc… I’m glad it can help me write a complex query or figure out what the hell this error message means and what in my code might be causing it.

    I’m glad it can help me do new things… I don’t want to be a game developer but making a game sounds fun. It’s a different kind of challenge and it’s nice Claude Code can step in and basically hand-hold me through my controllers and such. It’s a great teacher

    What I don’t want is to be forced to use it to do my entire job… I don’t want to product code by only prompting claude

    I like writing code. I like knowing the code I pushed is beautiful. Clean, well organized, good folder structures, etc… I like people opening up my projects and going, “damn, this is nice”.

    I do not like that people assume Claude did it

    I don’t hate AI, but we need to get past this initial phase of upper management not knowing how to properly use it and thinking it’s a magic tool that can do everything for us, instead of a fantastic assistant that we should use at our own descension

    That being said, AI is not going away. It’s not just a dumb toy for making bad music and shitty TikTok reels. It’s incredibly helpful and it’s here to stay. In that sense, Anti-AI shit is as embarrassing as this over-the-top pro AI shit.


  • yeah.

    I made a comment in a match thread and got the alert on the little bell icon that usually means somebody responded

    But instead of a response it was an auto-message that said my comment had been removed because my account is too new and doesn’t have enough Karma to post. But this auto-message also said something like, “message the mods here” and then had a link I could click to message the mods of the World Cup sub, so that’s what I did

    And all I was doing was explaining that I’m not a bot and I’ll take a picture or whatever to prove it, I’m just a dude who signed up for reddit that day just to post in the world cup match threads. That waiting days before being allowed to post isn’t the end of the world but considering the World Cup is a limited-time event, not allowing me to post for days would mean I wouldn’t be able to post in match threads for 12 or 13 of the games (at that point there were 3 or 4 a day)

    So I was just asking if they could lift my ban considering the circumstances

    But they came back and questioned why I had no posted anywhere else on reddit.

    So I told them, “I don’t really like reddit. I don’t have any interest in posting anywhere else. I’m literally only here for the World Cup match threads”.

    And I guess me telling them that reddit sucks was a trigger because the response I got back after that was super nasty

    It wasn’t until later did I think, “I be the World Cup sub is a sub created by reddit admins themselves because of it’s popularity. So I bet the mods of that sub are people who work for reddit. And I just told reddit employees I think their site sucks shit, hence the nasty response”

    It’s just a bit ironic because it was their chance to change my mind and prove that reddit doesn’t suck. Instead they banned my entire account and just kind of proved to me that everything bad I think about their site is not only true but actually much, much worse


  • I got banned for making an account just to post in the World Cup threads but the sub wouldn’t let me post because my account needed to be older and have a certain amount of karma

    This “you can’t post message” came with a note saying I could message a mod and then a link to click to do just that, so I did

    I explained I wasn’t a bot, I was a human, I’d prove it however they wanted, but I couldn’t really wait days to post because the World Cup is happening now and in 3 or 4 days I’d miss like 12 games

    They responded saying that I had zero karma and had not made any posts…

    So I replied that yeah, this is exactly true because I don’t like reddit I only signed up to post in the World Cup Match threads

    I received a very nasty reply where they told me that reddit was super popular with millions of users and that it wasn’t their problem I didn’t like reddit and then my account got banned

    I believe the World Cup is super popular and so it’s not just a random sub ran by random people in the world… but a sub made by reddit and moderated by reddit employees. So I just told a reddit employee I hate their site and so they banned me

    It’s a pretty shit site


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    OK, lets go through this again

    OP accidentally upset her parents by saying “we have news”. He mother assumed it meant they were about to have a child when in reality she just wanted to let everyone know her two ducks were dating.

    When the mother found out the news was about two dating ducks she got visibly upset; and when OP saw this look of sadness fall on her mothers face, instead of feeling bad, she thought it was funny. So funny that she’s decided she’s going to do this regularly

    A user on Lemmy pointed out that this is a pretty mean thing to do. What kind of jerk gets pleasure from making other people visibly upset?

    You tried to justify her mean behavior by saying it’s warranted because it’s mean for her parents to hound her for grandchildren.

    This where I pointed out to you that even if OPs mother is hounding her for grandchildren, and that is mean, so what? One person being mean doesn’t justify you being mean too. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s sad that the entire world seems to be in a competition to see who can justify their mean behavior the best

    If OPs mother is hounding OP for grandchildren, and it is mean, OPs mother probably has her own justification for it. If you and OP decide to be mean in return, you do so with justification of your own. Both people are being mean and trying to justify why their mean behavior is better than the other person mean behavior

    It’s sad that at least one of you can’t just be nice.

    It’s sad that the entire world seems to be in a competition to see who can justify their mean behavior the best… instead of, you know, just being nice

    And then you responded by trying to justify your mean behavior the best… proving you learned nothing