I can see why WasabiWabbit@lemmy.ca decided to betray his class.
So not only a treasonous class traitor, but also an accelerationist without an ounce morality and hope for a future.
Good luck in foodbanks.
That’s some pretty strong disagreement…
not to mention the technical debt they’re building with nobody understanding the code largely produced by AI.
Swap AI with humans and this statement continues to be true.
Sir, this is a Wendys.
Two questions for you:
Because you want your children to learn the value and joy of creative expression? To learn the ability to solve problems – of any discipline, not just software – for themselves? To give them the ability to think critically and protect themselves in an increasingly hostile world? To feel the satisfaction and confidence boost of overcoming a difficult challenge?
It is possible to do all of this without needing to teach any coding skills whatsoever. I’d even argue that, given the current state of affairs, teaching these important and valuable life lessons in a way that does not involve software would be the greater value.
There is a difference between the lesson and the medium. The point that is being made is that software development may not be the best choice as a medium to carry these kinds of lessons going forward. Would you, during the early hay days of the printing press, want to teach your children to take pride in themselves for their hard-won excellence in manual text transcription?
the human isn’t needed at all at that point.
Yes. This is the point they were making. On the current trajectory, and very soon to boot, many tasks — like writing code — will be entirely automated. That is exactly the goal of nearly every corporate player with any skin in this game, and for better or worse, it looks like this will indeed come to pass.
What value that leaves for human endeavor and understanding in these areas is an important but entirely separate matter.
Thank you for being the adult in the room. I appreciate it even if others cannot.
It’s really disheartening to see people on here not only consistently fail to understand what is happening in the world around them, but also go on to tar and feather anyone who tries to give them an informed perspective.
Yeah, it’s a legitimately difficult situation trying to balance effective safety measures with the needs of teens and young adults to be able to participate in civil discourse. And I’ll be the first to admit that I do not have a good answer for how to handle this.
Also I’m pretty new around here but so far my experience has been that Lemmy does not strike me as a welcoming place(period) so that likely goes double for anyone with an undercooked prefrontal cortex.
While I believe this is largely correct, it does not support your conclusion.
You are assuming that the participation would need to be to the benefit of the community to be worthwhile. That’s not the case. The party which stands to benefit most is the teen themselves. They may not be able to meaningfully participate in the kinds of discussion examples you have listed, but they could try.
After all, not being an ignorant dumbass is a skill that must be learned, and one that (as evidenced by this thread) many adults never managed to learn for themselves.
I completely agree and think that the proposal in the article really misses the mark.
However, to claim the issue is moot because “15 year olds are not children” (as some have done in this thread) is patently ridiculous. Taking that argument to its logical conclusion exposes its flaws — which was the point of my previous comment.
Cool. So Epstein did nothing wrong. Got it!
The cognitive dissonance in this thread is astounding.
Nonononono! Don’t shutter the conversation. You redirect and up-sale! Don’t say:
Unfortunately we are unable to offer any discounts on our current product line at this time.
Have a great day.
Instead try:
Unfortunately we are unable to offer any discounts on our current product line at this time.
Would you like me to show you some of the models available in our post-consumer-recycled line? Or would you prefer something from our Virgin Silicon line — because there’s nothing like the first time™.
And all because of a small fee for those who get a new batty and chose not to recycle the old one. Like the Aldi quarter of recycling.
What in the AI psychosis? This whole thing is bat-shit crazy.
Not really unique to chatbots. Here’s a couple of entries from the D.O.S. (which is apparently pay walled now? Turns out the top result is a site by a grifter completely unrelated to John Koenig).
n.
a conversation in which everyone is talking but nobody is listening— instead merely overlaying words like a spoken game of Scrabble, each player borrowing bits of others’ anecdotes to build out their own, until we reach a point when we all run out of things to say.
From anecdote, a short and often amusing account of real-life events + synecdoche, a figure of speech in which a part stands for the whole. Pronounced “uh-nek-doh-kee.”
n.
a state of exhaustion with continually being told what you want to hear, whether by marketers pandering to you or acquaintances afraid of causing offense; the longing for someone to have the heart to finally call you out on your bullshit, challenge your long-held assumptions, and push you to become a better person—which would be a far deeper kindness than trying to live and let live.
From an-, against + echoes. Pronounced “an-uh-koh-sis.”
Exactly! Like individualized and infinitely patient always available personal tutors. Oh, wait…
You got a source for this?
You seem reasonable and even-tempered, so I’d like to give you a considered response so I can hear your thoughts. But first I wanna ask:
Do you object to the technology as a whole, or only to the use of the moniker AI to described LLMs?
What is your definition of intelligence?
I think you are very out of touch with reality.