turns out if you just kill everyone who mentions it no one is left to complain about it, interesting

didnt this literally happen to tens of thousands of people during the white terror or am I tripping

That was the vibe I got from other commenters that havent replied to me. I appreciate you and others have less deranged views on this.

I dont think there is a magic number, I think the hope behind these actions are to inspire to enact more change and to show all human life has value, I think disregarding this as nothing demonstrates a lack of empathy or working class spirit.

You absolutely should be against chain suicides, like any good person is.

‘Chain suicides’ you’re inserting a bunch of nonsense no one has argued for. Lenin absolutely sent people to commit acts of violence on his behalf, and there have been many examples of suicide protest during occupied nazi europe having an impact.

You judge these things as not being impactfull the literal day after it happens, this is ridiculous. Its had enough of an impact we’re sitting here talking about it, this can be said to be more than most are doing.

Because it shouldn’t be copied, by anyone. There were many dozens of people that did this during Vietnam, of similar ages. Did that cause America to stop? No. None of the protesting did. Military defeat at the hands of Vietnamese communists did.

It pressured people to come back to the table, of course it did. Your ignorance of the impact of those protests doesnt make them not impactfull.

‘Inspiration’ and nonsense does not make a change in the world. All it does is add another sad headline, of which there are plenty to be had.

It likely sounds like nonsense because you’ve already accepted defeat.

Material reality. People have done this before for a myriad of causes. Does it stop empire? No. Lenin never said ‘go kill yourself it totally will change everything’.

Marxism isnt a orthodoxy that needs to be followed like a religion, im not going to judge the protest actions of others if it serves to protest a ongoing genocide being comitted by that persons government.

I run a homeless shelter. Thats at least one thing you could do that is far better than killing yourself for a cause. In fact, anything is better.

Firstly, cool. That doesnt change anything about how much you’re smugging over a dead person rather than allowing it to inspire.

Did Bushnell doing this do anything? No.

Says who? You?

The people detracting this as ‘nothing’ are clearly so comfy in there own situations they cant imagine any action, nevermind a strong one like this having an impact.

Thats your problem.

‘lmao’ the libshit says after someone gives there life to stop a genocide

I get where you’re going but on the other side of your fear of the state you are denied release from what could be immense suffering because the state deems it.

Often times its the state causing the immense suffering…

Modern psychology really misses the mark in the sense often times its just treating the symptoms so they can get you back to work as quickly as possible.

Im more interested in restorative justice with psychology, as well as treating the symptoms; we should be treating the causes too…

Body autonomy is a myth, ‘biopower’ is a concept that has been utilized since the industrial age, the role of the structres of society are to keep you healthy enough to work.

Regardless, I caveeted that yes, if you’re physically about to die and under immense suffering id support these actions. In a privatesed health system with an aging demographic though you cannot prevent abuses of power from happening with assisted suicide; family members pressuring mentally ill family members into an early suicide to remove there care burden, people doing it for inheritance, people thinking they have a uncurable mental illness when in reality the effective treatments are denied to them (I think of PTSD war sufferers denied MDMA which is proven 90%+ effective in treating PTSD who go onto kill themselves…)

There are so many ethical concerns with this stuff that only takes a little foresight to see how bad it would be in reality.

My arguements against this are the same as my arguements against the death penalty.

People make mistakes, even those who wish to die. Im not trusting the state with the power to kill me, even if its by assisted suicide.

I only support this for people who are terminally ill and about to die.

Liberal media in HK pumped up the young full of lies in HK so they would protest against a country that would provide them housing, a better quality of living and most importantly; democracy. Its a hard truth to swallow but more HK protestors killed other HK people than police vs HK protestors…

Something most people in HK dont have as an account of being a british colony for 100 years.

What arises out of that is that occasionally these interests will suggest a war is what the nation desires.

I think its pretty wrong to suggest wars happen as a bottom up democratic, abstracted process rather than by the upper class imposing it on us.

because this is about the US trying to arrest a journalist if you havent noticed

Why should the US get to keep its war crimes hidden again?

man discovers journalists can have biases

man demands they be executed/detained forever

yep its a liberal; free speech for the slave owners moment.

Dam its starting to sound like we just need to get rid of all private press

noooo dont just compare things stop thats not fair

The intervention also lead to many innocents (like the chinese embasy) being targetted and bombed by US forces.

I do agree that the intervention was likely needed in this case, but that intervention should not have taken the form of carpet bombing as it ended up killing people completely not involved in the conflict; Clinton even apologised for this and recongised it as a negative.

The tensions have never went away however, the campaigns of mass imprisonment have only put it to sleep for a while and if recent tensions are anything to go by, they are likely to escelate again.

My sources on this are reading and being friends with a few people who grew up through this war, it is a harrowing one and I would say that often times its better to have ‘no opinion’ on matters concerning this unless you have personal stakes in it. Thats not directed at anyone in particular, just more towards americans who use this conflict to score cheap points.

Source; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade