Great link, thank you. I’m so used to desperately trying to make this old 3a work that I didn’t realize they’d listed out support expectations for more recent models.

That’s what I expected, but had hoped there would be additional legacy support. Google previously only supported Pixels for 3 years, right? They may be more competitive with Apple now, but that’s still only 6-7 years. In that case, if I buy an old Pixel on ebay it’s not likely to have much of a run left.

My issues with Lineage are related, although they obviously try to give legacy support (perhaps without the ability to make full security updates), but we still run into functionality issues like my lack of wi-fi calling. I don’t think that is so much about the age of the phone as it is due to tech/frequency updates that are non-compatible with some older devices, and proprietary opaqueness in the Google code. I wish Lineage would at least list this issue on their wiki, phone by phone, as that would make it easier for me to decide on my next step.

I hear a tiny dev team made some VoLTE progress in the Linux world, but I am way over my head in trying to understand exactly what’s going on. I think they’ve got an Ubuntu Touch device working with VoLTE for the first time? Does it work in the US? Does it have Wi-fi calling? I have many questions but need to keep reading. (I know VoLTE is different from VoWiFi, but I see them used interchangeably at times.)

I believe I’m too old with my 3a. I’ve been considering getting a used 5, 6, 7, or 8 off ebay but I worry that support will run out. Any idea if that’s true?

I don’t believe they support the 3a. I’m really vintage.

Any idea how long support will last for the 8? I feel a little burned by the lack of support for the 3a, though I understand that a) 6 years for a phone is a good run in this wasteful world, and b) wifi calling on the 3a hasn’t been dropped by choice, but is actually a complicated issue that small #s of devs are still working on.

…How about a 3?

Edit: Nevermind, just checked. I swear this is still a great phone.

I went outside my comfort zone and installed Lineage on my old Pixel, only to find out I couldn’t get wi-fi calling, so I reverted to my Google OS. Oh no. Any options other than Lineage or a new phone? This 6 year old phone works great except for the lack of updates, and except for the upcoming Gemini updates :( I’m struggling.

Edit: Ubuntu Touch, anybody?

Edit 2: Looks like VoLTE isn’t supported on Ubuntu, either. Any idea why?

Novice question: I think I am understanding that Aurora is a way of accessing the Google store without actually installing the Google Play Store, but is there a software package that it comes with? Is it MicroG? I am a little lost with how these relate to each other.

I installed Lineage and MindtheGapps on my Pixel 3a yesterday, but I’m interested in alternatives before I commit to this setup. It seemed like the easiest route given my lack of know-how, but my hope had been to de-Google gracefully and I don’t know if that’s possible with system-level Google still installed on my phone.

Also, if we decided it was a good idea, then it should have been decided by Congress! Presidential overreach has been a huge issue for decades, Democran and Republicat alike. Fuck our congress. They are not doing their jobs.

Isn’t part of the issue here that they’re defaulting to LLMs being people, and having the same rights as people? I appreciate the “right to read” aspect, but it would be nice if this were more explicitly about people. Foregoing copyright law because there’s too much data is also insane, if that’s what’s happening. Claude should be required to provide citations “each time they recall it from memory”.

Does Citizens United apply here? Are corporations people, and so LLMs are, too? If so, then imo we should be writing legal documents with stipulations like, “as per Citizens United” so that eventually, when they overturn that insanity in my dreams, all of this new legal precedence doesn’t suddenly become like a house of cards. Ianal.

Green beans are technically fruits

Like kei cars … Kei rockets!!!

You mean fartichokes

I guess I should also first ask how many Democrats are on a similar list…

If I were to make a protest poster with this information, what pithy statement would be the best combination of true and impactful? I was thinking, “Protect children and women?! 1410 identified Republican sexual predators!”

Could the language get more specific but stay true? These aren’t all convicted offenses, right? They also weren’t so government officials, some just identify as Republican?

They deleted it! That was absolutely meant for posterity

Any noise ordinances? Not that those will be enforced, but it gives you a leg to stand on.

Didn’t some articles have the pocket icon, and some were without? I remember trying it a number of years ago and being completely flummoxed by not being able to save things I wanted to read. Though it could have been user error.

Yes, but for a kid who is new to the country and who is taking a 3-4 hour test in English, a paper dictionary is an impediment. I’m not saying it should be illegal, but I know we can do better by these kids. (Honestly, my preference is for a newcomer with limited English to not even take this test at all their first year, but that’s not my choice.)

I didn’t say 20 years, I said 20 devices.

Yes but the process of obtaining the information is significantly more difficult. We can, you know, reuse the same 20 translation devices for years, and all kids have a laptop… I feel like you’re focused on the wrong thing.