Similar here in the UK. Its like, yeah, even if the model you’re proposing was better (it isnt), you can tell for a fact that its for the benefit of the wealthy and at the expense of the 99%, simply by whos saying it.

I mean, its like taking parental advice from a convicted paedophile. In the same way, why would anyone take advice on socialised medicine from someone you know is trying to fuck your socialised healthcare system.

Also, having the NHS as a direct competitor drives down the price, much like social housing did to house prices.

Its why certain types hate those two things.

Yeah but, if it was remotely enjoyable, then you might make 2 or maybe even 3% less profit for the lazy, workshy scroungers who own the company.

We can’t have that now can we?

I get the feeling, I really do. However, I can’t think of many things that would radicalise someone more than losing all their money or being buried under a pile of debt. Being these sorts of types, they’ll only go one way. On reflection, I’m sure you recognise the very specific and historically recognisable tinder box.

I mean, it still might not be immoral. They can all get fucked. Just, maybe not in that specific way is all im saying.

Thankfully, now we have a system where owners of intangible assets are deemed superior by their inheritance (birthright) and economists gaslight the people who actually work for their money, calling them lazy and not productive enough instead. Its a TOTALLY different thing, we promise.

Humanity found out about gods tragic accident in 1882. So, instead of God, they now worship work and the rich.

Take that God! That’ll teach them to be dead on us.

Representative democracy has its problems but that doesn’t mean it can’t and isn’t further corrupted by capitalism.

Well, when the capitalist powers want something those counties have, they also install dictatorships and theocracies. In fact, capitalism doesn’t care what system it is, it will corrupt and toxify them all.

Very true, you can believe in magical cars falling into your lap for free, just at the exact second you need one for your YouTube video, atlantis, alchemy or even the tooth fairy, if you like.

I don’t remember saying it required lobbyists or that anything I said required it to be true but I can see why you had to stoop to pretending that I did. I would’ve struggled too.

WE can have it without them, as can be seen by the fact that we can’t have capitalism without them. Maybe capitalism could hypothetically exist without them but not on this planet or with us as the species using it.

Can you show an example of a democracy that hasn’t been utterly polluted by capitalism?

Also, love the copy paste, as if it proved anything here. Link your source or its just random BS you stuck > in front of. Also, also “actually, wealthy interests disenfranchising you of your vote and your democracy of validity is a good thing…” too funny.

Lol, maybe I should just decide people who see the world for what it is as having a bad attitude, like you instead?

Even cheating he couldn’t come close. Thats about all there is to it.

But we can’t have capitalism without lobbyists or money in politics, as can be seen by the fact that we have a single democracy that hasn’t been utterly perverted by capitalism. As such, the issue is capitalism and its toxic effect on everything it comes into contact with.

Sure, the a pick-up magically landing in his lap for free, at the exact moment he needed one, because he wasn’t difficult to deal with is way more believable than “he lied and it wasn’t even a good lie.”

Using a free car that “magically” fell into his lap, whats more.

Nothing about capitalism is beautiful.

In the real world, some wealthy, work shy scrounger, born to wealth, will decide that they like the idea of gouging people as much as possible for water. As such, they’ll lobby the government to make sure its the only product available. Or, they’ll buy out all the competitors, making it the only product available.

Thats because capitalism ruins everything it comes into contact with.

Interesting, I appreciate it thanks. I see what you’re saying and I think you’re right. Its not right to the exclusion of something else. That was too far. I must have gotten way too excited lol.

You know what it is? I just straight up dont like it. Its about time people started calling out time on its bullshit.

I mean, after all, their problem is that they want more workers, so they can make more money. Letting people work less defeats the point.

It’s our fault for ever thing they would try to fix their problem by making their own problem worse.

My ADHD version very similar to that.

Although, on mine, if you actually read any of it, none of it’s even remotely related to what I’m trying to figure out. It looks like it is but this is a lie.

Its not even like I’m thinking of lots of different things. Its just junk.

What effect does the distinction between that and “the best way we have for our minds to think about it” have on it?

Also, unless i remember it wrong, I thought it was relativity that showed the flaws explanation quantum physics’ had for time and not the other way round. I mean, I might be but that’s my understanding of it right now.

Lol, well, seeing as time or change is a dimension and direction, like any other, tthat’s like saying width or height is an illusion.

Time is, change isn’t. Time is how we measure change.

100%. Unfortunately, somewhere down the line, American style neoclassical economics because simply “economics” or even worse “just basic economics.” Suddenly tax breaks for the rich became the all curing treatment for any economic ailment.

Too much money to spend on healthcare? Tax cuts for the rich.

Too little money to spend on healthcare? Also tax cuts for the rich.

In terms of fixing every problem even, I’m yet to hear what it can’t do.

My favourite was when you had every economically illiterate stock bro in existence claiming along the lines of “no, I’ve glanced at a couple of margin calculations i made for 2 companies, at one point in the supply chain, and, as such, I know price gouging couldn’t possibly have happened.” They dont know enough about inventory keeping to explain to them that they can’t tell either way, bless them.