I don’t want to say “I told you so”, but I told you so.

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20240412122244/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/04/cass-report-youth-gender-medicine/678031/

Interesting quotes:

At the request of the English National Health Service, the senior pediatrician Hilary Cass has completed the most thorough consideration yet of this field, and her report calmly and carefully demolishes many common activist tropes. Puberty blockers do have side effects, Cass found. The evidence base for widely used treatments is “shaky.” Their safety and effectiveness are not settled science.

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We also don’t have strong evidence that social transitioning, such as changing names or pronouns, affects adolescents’ mental-health outcomes (either positively or negatively). We don’t have strong evidence that puberty blockers are merely a pause button, or that their benefits outweigh their downsides, or that they are lifesaving care in the sense that they prevent suicides.

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We don’t know why the number of children turning up at gender clinics rose so dramatically during the 2010s, or why the demographics of those children changed from a majority of biological males to a majority of biological females.

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Medicalized gender treatments for minors became wrapped up with a push for wider social acceptance for transgender people, something that was presented as the “next frontier in civil rights,” as Time magazine once described it. Any questions about such care were therefore read as stemming from transphobic hostility, full stop.

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I understand that this is a meme, but dismissing one of the best distro family because snaps are included is dumb. It is easy to uninstall snap entirely.

The only serious bummer is that the Firefox deb-package is now fake and only installs the snap version of Firefox. Go get Librewolf, which is basically a hardened Firefox, and use their repository.

It is fun to meme around when it is with people that are familiar with Linux. But some Windows/MacOS users who are interested in Linux might take you seriously. Ubuntu and Ubuntu-like distros are really good in terms of ease of use, support and compatibility. My first recommendation for a new Linux user is Ubuntu or variations thereof.

You don’t have to decide between riding a car or riding a bicycle to work

black guy thinking meme

when all you use are your feet

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You’re not understanding what I’m trying to say. This ideology attacks the very idea that the conceptualization of things is bound to reality, ad-hoc, to justify fetishes, making money or other limited personal gains. Outside of these limited gains, these people must deal with reality, so they reintroduce concepts as if nothing happened. That’s why it’s ad-hoc. It’s hypocritical, anti-truth and illogical. Your example, just like other attempts to dismantle the idea of a sex binary (male and female) is fundamentally flawed. A “spork” has the function of being compact and easy to carry & distribute. Being an intersex person has no benefit, it’s a disability. It’s like being born blind or deaf. It’s unfortunate, and should not be fetishized or compared to being a transexual. It’s also highly uncommon to be intersex, so uncommon that redoing how society functions is simply too impractical. Introducing sporks has no such burden on society, and can be easily referred to in terms of a spoon and a fork, because it combines the function of both (albeit lackingly).

It doesn’t end there. They claim that there is a spectrum, not 3 sexes. So they further muddy the waters, and any attempt to categorize things can be waved away in a similar fashion to satisfy some people’s personal whims and desires. Not practical, not acceptable.

Whatever grievances we have with clothing designers or fashion, the point still stands that we will never move away from naturally putting things into boxes, especially when it comes to sex. We naturally see two sexes, and doing so turns out to be what is most in line with reality.

You put things into categories all the time, we all do. Take plates for example. If someone told you that you are not allowed to call two plates with different colors “plates”, then you would likely have considered it a bit wired. Wouldn’t you?

Also, tone down the arrogance.

You know Pakistan & India also recognizes a third gender? The Hijra. I guess the medical community has a long history of this grift all the way into antiquity such as Ancient Egypt (they wrote and described their notion of a third gender) or even somewhat recently the Mughal Empire (15th century). But yes it’s totally a grift.

Your lack of knowledge isn’t mine to fix though. You’ve set your opinion to be something malicious because you want it to be, but even a quick glance at a wiki page would tell you the much longer history.

I did not know about this term, so let’s take a look.

Wikipedia says: “In the Indian subcontinent, hijra is the generic term for trans women and may include eunuchs and intersex people […] Hijras are officially recognised as a third gender throughout countries in the Indian subcontinent”

It goes on to say: “Some hijras may form relationships with men and even marry,[32] although their marriage is not usually recognized by law or religion”

So the institution of marriage did not entertain the idea of “hijras”, that seems pretty significant to me! It begs the question which other norms, customs, practices and laws pertaining to sexes were not taking this idea into consideration. Again, you can make up a sex ad-hoc for specific purposes (fetishes, guarding harems, etc.) but you will not find it being truly recognized as another sex.

If we forward to today, you see the same thing. Medical doctors, architects, clothing designers, etc. all mostly operate according the concept of two sexes. Because that’s what’s practical, and that’s what’s most in line with reality.

This is not the argument you think it is. It would have been fine for my grandfather to call black people with a different name in his day, but >one day it wasn’t. You can argue this made him less free, but I’d disagree.

You were being inflammatory, knowingly, and that’s why you got banned. You walked into a house and decided to shit on the floor and were then surprised you were shown the door.

I said “there are only two sexes”. I got my post removed, and got banned.

In general, you should have enough tolerance to host discussions and debates for people you disagree with. Especially when you claim to be a viable Reddit alternative. You can’t ask the wider population to join your platform when you are this extreme and on the fringe. As I said, Lemmy is in the same camp as Raddle.me, not Old Reddit.

It’s also not true there are only 2 biological sexes in humans (irregardless of the social arguments that exist in current day discourse). >Intersex exists and is recognized way before the current social aspect was relevant. There are also 6 chromosomal sexes recognised in biology.

There is a benefit to not start muddying the waters when it comes to sexes.

The benefit is the conceptualization of reality, which allows us to put things that are similar into the same box (let’s call it X). Then we can say things that are in X tend to have a, b, c, … features. We can then talk more about the objects in X in a social or academic setting, and draw logical conclusions based on their features and other premises. This helps us decide which treatments to give, how to behave, how to build homes, which products to develop, which services to give and much more.

When you refuse to acknowledge that the objects in the box can be similarly referred to, and instead enforce a system where object 1 belongs in box “A”, and 2 in “B”, and 3 in “C”, etc. you challenge people’s ability to conceptualize reality efficiently. This makes medicine harder, it makes socialization harder, and other things we do as human beings that differ based on sex much harder.

It’s simply not realistic to enforce this on wider society because

1. As I mentioned earlier, it’s inefficient.
2. It goes against human nature. (goes contrary to how different civilizations in different times have conceptualized reality)
3. Religious reasons

I therefore believe that the whole idea of non-binary is pushed primarily as a grift by the medical industry to sell “treatments” for gender dysphoria, and as a type of fetish. It’s not something most people are interested in validating, because it’s wrong, harmful and not based on reality.

I’d argue, as a day 1 Reddit user that Reddit was way more woke than any competitor at the time. It wasn’t as woke (lol what a word) as it is today, but if you think whatever it was competing with wasn’t less woke than Reddit, I have a bridge to sell you.

It depends on the subreddit. Several subreddits that you surely would not agree with did just fine for years.

Reddit didn’t even have subreddits in the beginning, meaning that for everyone to play nice a baseline of respect had to be present.

I will repeat myself… I said “there are only two sexes”. I got my post removed, and got banned.

Children need a man as a father, not a spineless cuck.

It is harsh language, I will admit. But the guy needed some tough love.

Cisgender is a slur

It is a slur, since it is constantly being used in a negative context. It is how I, and others feel from experience.

Where did the big bad woke touch you?

Nowhere, thank God.