Actual programmer

I wonder if JJ anonymous branches would be something that solves this. I’ve only read about it, have not used JJ yet.

Or meet old ideological dogs like me :P

Much better integrated refactoring support. Much better source code integration support. Much better integrated debugging support. Much better integrated assistive (but not ai) support.

Vscode can do many things IntelliJ can, but not all, and many of them require fiddling with plugins.

Usually, JB is also faster (if your dev machine can run it, but in my experience most devs have beefy machines).

Zed is also lightspeed fast compared to either vscode or JetBrains’ stuff.

I would expect it to rise. I still think it’s worth it, if it’s a good tool for you. IntelliJ is really a good product, even if they do have their downsides. In a commercial environment, it’s totally worth it to buy a licence per developer, if it makes them more productive.

I don’t mind paying for tools that help me do my job. For several years I even had a personal licence for “all products pack” thing. Their IDEs do a decent job.

There are better tools for specific things, but overall as an IDE, it’s pretty good and makes you effective. And especially if you have to use Windows, it’s integrating enough tools that you don’t have to mess with the Windows crappy tooling that often.

That said, it’s still a big fat slow IDE. For a while now I’ve been using neovim my modernized Linux toolkit and for the most part, I’m happier with it then I was with IntelliJ and Goland and the rest. Happier enough to not having a licence for JetBrains any more.

And recently I’ve looked into Zed. Zed looks pretty neat so far, but it’s still under development. Once things stabilise there, I might commit to it and switch full time to Zed. It’s got a few nice things that I miss from IntelliJ, but it’s way, way more responsive.

Back on topic: I wanted to say I don’t mind paying for IDEs, if they’re good tools. But this is more of an ideological challenge and I’m always trying to keep myself from overreacting. So while I don’t agree with you in general (“don’t trust paid IDEs”), I might agree with you specifically (“don’t fall for JetBrains’ lure and Microsoft-like tactics”).

JetBrains git integration is a known mess, true.

Even this is forum-like though. It’s a forum of people talking about a topic that interests them. It just happens to be distributed.

That still doesn’t look like a very heavy workload. My older box was older then your 6700k and was fine running such stuff.

Perhaps your limit isn’t the CPU. What storage and ram setup do you have, did you look at that?

I’ll be honest and say that when I replaced my old crap with 7900x I did feel improvements on occasion, mostly when I really burden the pc. Plus I think having 64 gigs of ram helps there, at my old system I hit the limits sometimes. Not often, but sometimes. Now my new box just laughs at anything I try to do to it.

Since when do Unix tools output 3,000 word long usage info? Even GNU tools don’t even come close…

[zlatko@dilj ~/Projects/galactic-bloodshed]$ man grep | wc -w
4297
[zlatko@dilj ~/Projects/galactic-bloodshed]$ man man | wc -w
4697
[zlatko@dilj ~/Projects/galactic-bloodshed]$ 

The article sure mentions 💩a lot.

These technologies, although archaic, clumsy and insecure

Like cars? Or phones? Those are also archaic, clumsy and insecure technologies.

I also didn’t think much of them, but when I compare this with off-the-shelf Synology or QNAP (in the consumer-grade, like I’m building), the Celeron is a beast :)

pata

How old are those? :)

Oh, I don’t want this to be a PC. I have plenty of CPU power for what I do, this has a different purpose.

I’m not planning to run anything much on those Celerons - it’s mostly just a file server. People do that with a RasPi - a 4-core CPU is going to blow it out of the water I think.

I also wanted some Ryzens, but my requirements were different. I did not want so much computational power, as much as I wanted low power. Combined with the price and availability, this works good enough for mne. We’ll see in the long run.

Yes, in fact! Two main reasons.

• I wanted low-power, this is mostly gonna sit in the closet and serve files around. Even ARM CPUs like the RasPi can do that. But I didn’t want it to be too weak, in case I wanted a simple service or two, this still has extra oomph. This isn’t too powerful, but it is a 64-bit x86 CPU.

• I also wanted some ports. This has 4 SATA ports. It’s supposed to be a NAS. It has a Gbit ethernet - I don’t have a Gbit network at home so this is good enough for now, and I can expand it somewhat. It has USBs, expansion slots etc.

• those two combined resulted in a few selections, AsRock’s mini-ITX boards with integrated CPUs are quite good choices in this space.

• I wanted low power consumption. I could have gone with a slightly stronger ‎J5040-ITX perhaps, but it’s also using just slightly more power.

• it’s also cheaper, the mobo with the CPU cost me 120€. The j5040 I mentioned would be a bit more - not a lot but still noticable.

• I wanted silent, and this board and CPU is passively cooled. If I had money, I would get SSDs for storage as well (less power, less noise) but it’s a LOT more expensive.

I know there are other CPUs in this space but in the end you have to pick one so I did.

How did you find it for cable management?

Thanks! I ordered a SATA SSD already, and I did plan to read about the E key slot later, but for now I’m good. The board has 4 SATA slots, so I will either have to have an USB OS disk or an adapter like this, but for now I’ll just go with what I know.

Do you know what are the speeds like on that Sintech or similar adapter? I don’t really need NVMe speeds, it’s a simple OS disk, but I wouldn’t like to go down to something bellow regular SSD speeds.