PewDiePie made a video on why he installed Linux and explained why everyone should do it too. Due to his number of followers, this might be the year of the Linux Desktop? Hooray?
The amount of people crying about pewds is insane
Yeah why do people have such strong views against it?
Also Linux is a great anti tech giant alternative.
I have to bam communities on the daily, just so I can go one day on Lemmy, just one day, where Linux isn’t shoved down my throat to the point where I don’t wanna hear it anymore
If that’s what you want, I feel like this community would be one of the first you’d ban - instead of participating in the comments.
You know he’s a Linux user because tells everyone he uses Linux without being asked.
He was asked tho, he built a pc and installed linux on it without mentioning it and people started asking about it.
I use arch btw
Cool. I use Linux too, by the way.
That’s how we know he isn’t a Tool fan.
As a Tool fan I can tell you that you are correct.
Now I really don’t want to install Linux.
Yeah and hitler used windows
Installing Linux was a good decision.
I have not gone back to Microsoft Windows.
Don’t listen to people telling you it’s hard. I don’t have an IT degree or engineering degree. Installing it was easy. Linux is elegant, secure and powerful. I love it.
Currently the bar to installing it is in the tech savvy area. If you have enough knowledge about computers to be a gamer you can be a linux user. Of course if you have to ask your SO or child for help with a computer, its not for you but tbh windows is also too complicated for some people. Once you have it installed, someone with 0 computer knowledge will find mint easier than windows for example.
If you don’t use many devices it’s fine.
What do you mean? I’ve never had any issues with multiple devices. They’re… Just different devices.
I don’t know if this is what they meant, but what’s stopping me from fully switching is that I have a bunch of peripheral devices with windows-only drivers
Ah, that makes sense. I thought they were talking about laptop, desktop, kids computer, tablet, etc. and was like ¿…? Linux works next to everything better than anything else.
Anyway, I see what you mean. I got a temperature monitor that needed to be set up using their proprietary software that they only made for Windows, wine didn’t work so I actually ended up setting up a tiny win 10 VM so I could set it up. Easier and safer than dual booting with Windows around. Besides that though, I’ve always been able to find a workaround.
I was surprised to have a fairly unusual setup with fairly unusual peripherals, and everything pretty much worked out of the box, except for one software (philips hue sync) for which there is an open source alternative (huenicorn, and it wasn’t built-in as Linux drivers are, because it’s specialized and requires a special interface)
Many of them work without having to install anything. You could try a live boot USB and see what of them doesn’t work to get an idea how difficult it’ll be.
(possibly needless) anecdote
My dad is a Windows “power user” and it’s funny trying to talk to him about Linux because there are so many things unique to Windows that were essentially OS problems foisted onto “power users” that he is concerned about and a lot of them don’t really apply (e.g. anti-virus, drive letters, installing drivers for everything, etc.).
Oh yeah I’ve already dual booted. Its mostly musical instrument related stuff that’s stopping the full switch over. Like the programs to edit presets on my guitar pedal and synth are not huge fans of Linux. I would say for most people though, you could probably switch them to Linux and they wouldn’t even notice
TBH I kinda like the whole “drive letter” thing. But I also understand mount points, so I don’t really miss it, but still. It’s nice to have one single window to see all of your internal & external drives, home folders, and network shares. And yes, I’m aware I can do this in Linux as well. Just needs extra configuration - which is not a bad thing.
Nautilus shows me that stuff next to each other out of box on Ubuntu. It just doesn’t have drive letters.
Nemo can as well. I forgot how, but it’s in there.
Or rely on software that is not available in Linux and can’t be emulated, which unfortunately applies to both my work and personal use
Work should supply you with a managed device. That’s out of your control.
I’m genuinely curious though - what ‘personal use’ software do you run that isn’t supported in Linux?
It’s exactly this. There are SteamOS-like systems out there (Bazzite and CachyOS) but it’s a pain if you don’t know what you’re doing. Needless to say, Enterprises will be using Windows for a very long time since they can easily restrict software and such - and a lot of their software is Windows-based only.
Yeah every thread is basically “lol bro just use Linux, skill issue”… I’m very comfortable with Linux, shell scripting and all those things. Been doing is almost 30 years. There are a wide range of things that are just not supported, which makes it a non-starter for a lot of people.
It’s because, for the vast majority of people, it isn’t an issue. Web browsers work fine and gaming is pretty much solved. If you’re doing something technical enough to require specific software then you’re technical enough to figure out if it works for you. If you aren’t then it will work for you, and solve a lot of the issues Windows causes too.
I wanted to give new life to an old acer laptop/tablet hybrid. I installed Linux, but the webcam and microphone just won’t work no matter what. The power button also doesn’t work.
There’s still a long way to go before any casual user would accept this.
Your edge case is not indicative of a larger trend.
The good news is this isn’t an issue for most people, it was free, and your device was already doing so poorly with Windows you felt it was at the end of its life, so even not working perfectly it still worked.
Edit: Also, Linux isn’t one thing. Your distro may not have included the packages to make those devices work, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. You could have searched for a solution, or perhaps a different distro would work.
This was the result of much research, I’m not entirely new to the space. No one got these peripherals to work on that device, unfortunately.
I don’t understand what you mean by this isn’t an issue for most people. Most people do care about a webcam not working right. Or do jou mean my device isn’t representative? That could be, but it doesn’t mean people with this device have a good Linux experience if they install it.
I have 2 servers, 6 containers, a raspi, a desktop, and a laptop all running linux just fine. My two phones send notification updates to my laptop via kde connect
I have lots of devices on linux and they all play nice together
PewDiePie? Is that really the guy’s name? Is that Slavic or something?
What is the point of this comment? If you have nothing to say just dont say it.
His name is Felix, PewDiePie is just his yt handle.
I have, we’re a multi-OS houshold. Linux, Steam Deck, Windows, MacOS, iOS, Android.
Different tools for different purposes. You wouldn’t have just one kind of screwdriver, right?
No.
But if I only need a specific screwdriver cause none other fit these screws, it costs $200 and plays ads while I hold it, then I’ll use different screws instead.I get having Linux and Windows, after all you need a backup solution for when you can’t use Linux. But why do you also have a Mac?
Then I guess iOS makes sense if you have a Mac, but why also have Android?
Linux = Freedom, customizability MacOS = Usability Windows = ???
Windows for interoperability.
Try job hunting without a Windows machine. Good luck!
(My wife hates it when she hits websites that don’t work properly and starts swearing, then I ask “Are you using a real browser or just Safari?” - “FUCK YOU!” Somehow we’re still married. 😀)
Requires Windows to apply? Easily in the “nope” pile. Which is a privilege, I realize.
Yup. If you’re on unemployment and have to hit an application quota, you can’t afford to be picky. :)
Try job hunting without a Windows machine. Good luck!
I don’t have any problem job hunting on a Linux box. Why would that matter?
Quite a lot of job portals are not only Windows dependent, they can even be I.E./Edge dependent.
Firefox with user agent switcher extension. Problem solved.
Are you using a real browser or just Safari?
I used to do web development, Safari is honestly worse then IE6
It’s godawful, so many things don’t work in Safari and it’s because Apple can’t stand other people coming up with “standards”. :)
Can you fullscreen windows under MacOS yet?
Unless I misunderstand, you’ve been able to do that since around 2011.
M4 Mac user here happy to shed some light onto this. It’s actually super intuitive: “Full screen” on Mac means the current App window becomes a new temporary virtual desktop, which is placed after your normal virtual desktops. It also turns off the status bar / app menu, although you don’t get that screen space back because of the camera notch, it’s just blacked out.
Note that how many virtual desktops you have and which one is selected is specific to each display. So if you like multitasking, it really helps if you’re good at remembering all of them in the correct order including any fullscreen apps and the display they’re on. And I hope you don’t mind performing the same swiping gesture multiple times to get back to your fullscreen app. Also you can’t move it between displays.
You might just want to maximize your app window instead. Though you do need third-party software to do that.
I wish I was kidding about any of this.
I’ve used apps in fullscreen for as long as it’s been possible, and I’ve honestly never found it confusing at all.
You can move them across displays. Just open Mission Control then drag it from one screen to another. Or drag it to a desktop if you want.
As for maximising; just double click the bar at the top of the window. No extra software needed.
Now that macOS supports window tiling there’s a number of ways to lay out app windows. Fuck Stage Manager though. I’ve never been able to work out the point of it.
Dragging them on Mission Control hasn’t worked for my apps. I’ve had to exit fullscreen, move screens, then reengage fullscreen.
The double-click to maximize often doesn’t work. Many windows either do nothing, or resize only to a specific size, or maximize only vertically. Totally not infuriating.
Rectangle is the tool I use to make windows behave.
I don’t even know whether I understand I just hear MacOS users griping about fullscreen, and a quick google gave quite recent results. Especially with fullscreen being incompatible with other windows on top (each fullscreen window necessary is on its own workspace) which would be highly annoying in Blender. You can configure blender to have file open dialogues, render results etc. in its main window, but certain stuff like preferences always open a second one.
I don’t know why people would gripe. There’s a bunch of different ways to resize windows in macOS. You can fullscreen them into their own virtual desktop, and sure, unless you drag another app alongside then no, that’s not compatible with other windows at the same time. Personally, I use fullscreen for apps that I don’t need to interact, or that I want to have full focus on. iTunes/Music for example, is kept to the far right of the spaces on my right hand monitor. I know where it is and it’s easy to access without taking up space on the desktop.
But you can also make them fill the regular desktop by double clicking the bar at the top of the window. Or you can drag windows to various sides of the screen to resize them, the same way you can with Linux and Windows.
And yeah, there’s Stage Manager too, but honestly, I’ve never really seen the point. Not on a Mac anyway.
My wife is an Apple fangirl. :) She has the watch too!
I admire the perpetual Linux optimism but man if I could make money betting against you I would (I’d feel a little evil about it, but I need the cash).
When corporate slop all around us is continuing to thrive despite lower and lower quality products and receiving government support now too, to think the big money makers will somehow lose traction in a meaningful way to open source enthusiasm is niave imo.
I’m not even sure Taylor swift could make Linux happen this year, nevermind this racist dirt bag.
I feel like the GUI’S and user experience have barely changed in the last ten years since I started using linux. You still need to use the terminal for basic things like installing WiFi drivers when your distro didn’t automarically install it and smooth scrolling on a trackpad has been garbage for years.
Needing to fiddle to install basic drivers on a 2012 macbook air is kinda unacceptable in this day and age. I had to pull put a USB Ethernet jack and go through three updates and restarts for the drivers to finally pop up. I like tinkering so I don’t mind, but a regular person with basic computer skills would have no clue what to do.
Your laptop may be 13 years old, but Apple is notorious for their walled garden and surely never officially supported Linux on it, or did they? So it’s probably the worst example.
NO MY WALLED GARDEN ANTI CONSUMER OVERPRICED APPLE PRODUCT DOESNT HAVE WIFI DRIVERS THIS IS THE FAULT OF THE NERDS THAT FIGHT FOR TECHNOLOGY INDEPENDENCE OF BIG COMPANIES LIKE THE ONE I DECIDED TO INVEST IN WAH WAH
It definitely won’t happen as long as the corporate world is slaved to Microsoft. We actually have a few Linux computers on our domain at work and they’re a pain to administer as are the four Macs that we have.
If he’s doing it I’m inclined not to do it.
His followers aren’t exactly tech savvy so I’m not entirely sure this is going to have much of an effect. Most of his followers are kids who don’t even own computers they just have iPads
Most of Félix’s followers are the ones that grew up with him. Those are well in their 30s now. He doesn’t make kids content anymore.
You’re just hating for the hate. There’s a place for that, it’s called Reddit.
He’s made videos on stoicism, mental awareness, physical health and training. The times of “it’s peeeeeeeewdiepieee” are long gone and over, that’s what you’re still remembering.
lets just say his audience isn’t tech savy. But somehow they try Linux and like it. I think its definitely a win, because even non tech savvy can enjoy Linux.
This might have been partly true 10 years ago. A large majority of his audience is probably adult now.
I was thinking he’s not tech savvy, so he’s doing it for the view. I’ve noticed he’s been trying to come back on the YouTube scene, he’s been largely supplanted by other YouTuber over the years he was gone
That’s 22 minutes of my life. I’ll never get back. But at least it’s interesting that somebody that popular has decided to go to Linux. On second thought, it wasn’t 22 minutes. It was probably more like 10 because I always use 1.5 or 1.75x speed.
Bro, shut the fuck up😊 Nobody cares.
Nazi YouTubers fuck off.
Can we reserve that word for actual Nazis that want to commit genocide, not edgy 15-year old like personalities?
What he did with the sign was arguably very cringe, but it’s pathetic to compare that to someone who actually believes X group of people deserve to die.
If we label everyone a Nazi, the word means nothing and when actual Nazis show up(they are) we’re fucked.
It’s long past being meaningless at this point, other than just a red flag of a toxic individual.
I love my Lemmy client having the ability to label people. I already had you labeled as a Nazi apologist before opening this thread so it tracks to find you saying this here.
yooooo what client lets you do that?
Thank you for proving my point.
nah
PewDiePie is the most basic kind of cryptofascist hiding behind a veil of edgy humour and he should not be welcome in the open source community
We reserve it for the “hitler did nothing wrong” crowd.
I don’t care if it’s edgy or ironic or earnest because I have no way to know that. Also, if you fuck goats just to be edgy you’re still a goat fucker.
Cant imagine there are mature minded people that use Lemmy
What did pewdiepie do? Not defending him, I dont follow him at all, and I am just wondering.
You will find two major incidents. The bridge incident where he said the n-word in PUBG and a edgy joke where he tried to see how far Fiverr creators would go and asked for a video of people to write “Hitler did nothing wrong” on a sign. He apologized and condemned the behavior for both.
To me it seems like the source of a lot of the negative quick opinions come from a bad article WSJ did on him.
He’s also promoted the books of fascist talking heads like Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, and Steven Crowder through his book club.
There’s a reason the Christ Church shooter yelled “Subscribe to PewDiePie” besides being a topical meme.
This one I’ve never heard
Its how you can tell PDP fans weren’t paying attention. He promoted it a few times but it didn’t gain any traction and he abandoned it.
Or maybe it just didn’t help with the fascism allegations from the bridge moment and the Fiverr incidents since those all happened about the same time.
Hell, he had Ben Shapiro host an episode of LWIAY. Sure it wasn’t peak genocide apologizer we have now Benny Boy, but he was still a verifiable dick head grifter.
I think this maybe deserves more attention.
Anyhow, I found the video for people curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBDNbpWSUx8
So I read up on it again very briefly because that was ages ago but: The story goes in 2017 he paid an Israeli on Fiverr to dress as Jesus and hold a sign declaring that Hitler did nothing wrong. I have not seen the video so I don’t know for sure, but apparently he wanted to show how far you can take things with Fiverr without any resistance from Freelancers.
I think he did something very wrong to shock his audience for clicks similar to Logan Paul’s disgusting Suicide Forest stunt around that same time and he got a ton of criticism for it. I don’t know what happened afterwards because I’m really not in that bubble but I don’t think a video likes this makes someone a Nazi and the comment above is a bit of a Fediverse knee-jerk reaction to this kind of stuff. I understand why people would still despise him for that though.
I didn’t know about any of this. I don’t like him for completely different reasons and I suspect a lot of people will be like that.
Wasn’t he big into that whole CS go gambling thing? I actually can’t remember when that was that might have been pre-2017
This is just the tip of the iceberg, the example that’s easy to cite. Over time in his videos he made a welcoming environment for fascist and hateful groups to feel welcome and at home. The more apt comparison is that if you run a bar, and you don’t kick Nazis out, you own a Nazi bar.
I think you are wrong. He did some mistakes but they were not a tip of an iceberg. I was there watching the videos at that time and I never saw anything that fostered a racist or homophobic environment. He didn’t make specifically anti-racism content and the only LGBTQ related thing he did was offering a different view on the drama related to a queer make up artist.
I suppose we disagree.
He said the n word a few (maybe even several, by now) years ago. Idk if that makes him a nazi but maybe he did something else I haven’t heard of
Once. The other big controversy was the Fiverr antisemitic joke.
Oh yea I forgot about that one too
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I can see some ytbers be nazis, but not him. I know he said the n word, and even if he maybe had some alt right or similar views back in the day, but he is a genuinely good ytber nowadays imo
