“We set out to solve one of the most common frustrations we hear — finding and changing settings on your PC — using the power of AI agents,” Navjot Virk, corporate vice president of Windows Experiences at Microsoft, said in a blog post on Tuesday. “An agent uses on-device AI to understand your intent and with your permission, automate and execute tasks.”

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    Changing settings is only frustating because the modern Settings apps sucks ass lol. You can bet everyone was less frustrated with Control Panel.

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      Nah, did you forget how hidden and inconsistent some of the setting location was in control panel? The windows 11 settings app may have brought some new issues to the table, but ease of finding settings is not it.

      If I wasn’t already familiar with how the control panel is laid out, I wouldn’t have any idea how to find most of what I used to do on it. Also, you can only set static IP per adapter in control panel, not for each WiFi connection. That was stupid.

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    User: “Cortana, secure my PC against data harvesting and surveillance from Microsoft.”

    Cortana: “Dave, you are not allowed to have privacy. The 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments do not apply to corporations. Also, Trump is the best that ever was. Stop posting progressive propaganda, else fines will be imposed.”

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    Alright, that’s fucking it. Next long weekend I have, I’m figuring out how to install Bazzite.

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      Watch a quick YouTube video about Bazzite. The installation is easy.

      I’ve been trying to get some of my games to work on Bazzite… no hope!

      nVidia GPU’s get a 20% decrease in performance. AMD works better.

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    Couldn’t they have used ai to figure out how to make the settings less obscure instead.

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    The biggest frustration is not me changing settings.

    The biggest frustration is windows changing back those settings whenever it feels like it.

    This is just doubling down on the “greatest frustration”

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      Well tbf, they did keep moving them on me and hiding them from me.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if they moved them again…behind an AI wall that can interact with them but you can’t without using that AI. Also they’ll continue to reset them whenever they feel like it, if they even successfully get changed by the AI, if the AI doesn’t say “I can’t let you do that Dave” when you try and disable telemetry.

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        Or maybe the AI just lies and says it changed the setting and then doesn’t. There’s a ‘delete my data’ button on reddit profiles that is literally a fake button, it wouldn’t even be a new tactic.

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    Holy shit.

    Your ux SUCKS SO MUCH, that instead of making it not shitty…

    You developed AI for it?

    Are you fucking kidding me

    How inept are these developers

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    This is why I got my 70 year old mother on a frameworks laptop running pop OS. It looks like a Mac and she thinks its pretty. Switching cost is over hyped. Fuck big tech

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    google has a spying app(you will have to delete occasionally) on any android phones if your using google in any manner.

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      Are you talking about google services? Because all google apps are spying on you

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    Ah Christ. We’ve collectively regressed so much in computer knowledge that people can’t even find a settings menu? Even I have trouble believing that one.

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      kinda fair considering windows has like 20 control panels that should all do the same thing but at the end of the day you still need to use regedit.

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      The last time finding settings in Windows was straight forward was Windows 95. Since the stupid dumbed down ‘settings’ app was vomited upon us, it has been nearly impossible to find the thing you know is there but has now been renamed and moved, and isn’t even indexed in the settings app search bar.

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          Have you tried to configure gnome beyond what is offered in its GUI ?

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            The reasoning I moved from Windows to Linux was this right here.

            If I’m going to be fighting with Windows anyway, because of the registry giving me issues, then the drawback of “but Linux hard! You have to configure things!” was moot.

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            No, I’m a happy i3wm user.

            Because I’ve tried to get GNOME to do what I wanted. (Also it was too slow on the machines I was using at the time).

            And that’s besides the point: on linux you can just use a good DE without messing with much – KDE, cinnamon, etc…

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        Just to be the devil’s advocate here: There are way more settings now than back then. That interface wouldn’t cut it either.

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      The problem that i cant find the setting, or it’s in a different app or intentionally cant be changed easily. I want to limit my battery to charge only when below 30%; but i cant do that in battery or power settings. I want to disable some “feature” where windows randomly adds a new keybord layout to windows, but this is not a setting but seems to be a bug. I want to completely disable usb- or lan-wakeup, but despite changing settings in the device manager my desktop is sometimes turned on in the morning after i set it to hibernate the night before. I dont want one-drive or cloud, but this is also not a setting but a design decision by the MS marketing department to make money with their half-baked cloud solutions.

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      I unironically had a friend who hated Linux Mint for awhile because he believed for YEARS you always double click applications in the task bar like you would on your desktop. When he switched he was so furious how apps would crash and/or just not start until I told him “dude… just click it once”

      I have no idea how this didn’t happen on Windows or how he never had something open up twice

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      Well, there’s the small issue of Windows now having control panel the settings app and some shitty third thing sprinkled in there somewhere. There are some things that should have settings but don’t. You can no longer simply disable Windows update on your own, because Microsoft has decided they know best.

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    Perhaps you could just make them easier to find by putting them in one location… You could call it a “control panel”.

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    Maybe if you didn’t split settings into that half-baked settings app, then leave control panel in place with the remaining settings, but make control panel increasingly difficult to get to, we wouldn’t need a stupid AI agent to help us change settings.

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      Yes! I really feel all this copilot bullshit is to hide the fact they released windows 11 broken as fuck and here 2.5 years later it’s still a pile of shit. It’s just fucked. I have to use it daily for work and clients and it’s done nothing but prepare me to install W10 LTSC this summer or move to Linux. Problem with Linux is a have an Nvidia GPU and don’t like having to fuck with that, otherwise Zorin it will be. Windows 11 pushes me everyday to hate it more and more. Seriously. Daily fucking updates for broken shit and shoving AI down our throats. Fuck windows.

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          CachyOS rocks. I settled on it after trying many Linux distros and CachyOS won. All distros had pros and cons CachyOS was easy to update. Easy to install and remove programs without the terminal. Proton and Wine run great on it so most of my Steam and Epic games are playable and all media types play without tinkering. That was an issue with Fedora.

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        I’m in a similar situation, though I’ve already got a dual boot set up so it’s just a matter of only using Windows when I just absolutely have to.

        Earlier today, I tried to zip a directory on Windows 11 with the context menu, and it wouldn’t do it! It’s a feature that’s been in Windows forever and is even in Ubuntu, but somehow over at Microsoft they’ve managed to break it. Incredible.

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    I set up my pc as dual boot a few weeks back. Opened up windows yesterday, for the first time in a while, to export a few settings from thunderbird. Took about half an hour to get it started. Felt like popping round to the house of an abusive ex to pick up the last of my things.

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    “Hey Copilot. Delete yourself, Recall and all other bloatware from my system. Thank you.”

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        “Hey Dave, I installed CandyCrush and the LinkedIn App for windows during the latest update!”

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        While the precise words were different, I otherwise had this exact exchange with Gemini.

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    I actually like the ability for a local AI to help with this in theory. I don’t think it’s an excuse for unintuitive UIs though.

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      Wow, a take that isn’t just “AI bad?” Wild.

      Yeah I thought it was weird that it couldn’t do this in windows in the first place when you had to click a button to allow the AI to change your computer from light to dark mode or something. It was right 99% of the time in my brief testing, and just include an undo button in case it isn’t.

      All of that said, I’m glad to be on Linux where there isn’t any AI built into my OS, but I’m also not the target audience for needing an AI to change my settings for me.

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      I appreciate the sentiment - in fact it’s been fun watching AI being integrated into home assistant by end users and being given full control, lots of incredibly interesting times.

      But not all AI is the same. Somehow I expect that Microsoft’s implementation will make it ridiculously easy to opt-in to Microsoft services and relaxed privacy settings, but will leave opting out as an exercise left to the user.

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      I agree but with Microsoft you know an air-gapped ‘AI agent’ is never going to happen.