The conservative movement has built its case against gender-affirming care on the authority of anachronistic, faulty clinical research.

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    No, compromising with conservatives does nothing but give them more power and the world further into fascism.

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      This is not compromising with conservatives. It’s compromising with popular attitude towards the conversation. This is the problem with progressives right now, you contradict yourselves, arent you supposed to be a movement of the people for the people?

      I know you aren’t but this is what many progressives claim so maybe solve that internal contradiction if you want to appeal to the masses. People may be stupid but they can see the anti populist attitude of the progressives and this is why you don’t have their support.

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        Hmmm, who also wanted to go with the populist values at the expense of human rights? Nazis. We want all humans to be equal, not throw trans people under the bus to be “popular”. Which itself is a lie, politicians that stand for trans rights are more popular to most people.

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          Well I never said that populism necessarily led to desirable outcomes. I said that progressives keep the pretense of being a popular movement when it really isn’t. It’s a technocratic movement, but admitting that is political suicide so it keeps the veneer of populism. But the working class can see that they are not welcome in the movement because they are “uneducated, bigots, racists etc” as soon as they disagree with a single point in the agenda so who are you really appealing to by saying you are of the people for the people? Probably yourselves because no one else buys it.

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            Naww, the working class is down with LGBT, it’s the ruling class that tries to force the view by buying millions of dollars worth of ads and astroturfing by homophobic Russia. Most people are a live and let live type but Republicans in power need a boogie man. As you can see from them going after gay marriage when they thought they killed off trans support.

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              I think the working class is down with LGBT until the Ts are in the same teams as their girls and in the same bathrooms their wives but ok, if you believe that fine.

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                I mean, I’m a man with a dick, stubble and XY chromosomes, and I’m forced to be in the women’s changing rooms and bathrooms because of the laws that conservatives passed, but alright I guess.

                Everything about my body says “male”, all the way down to my chromosomes, but that doesn’t matter in the eyes of these laws because I used to have a vagina.

                I guess you’re in favor of that, though?

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                  Absolutely not. Did I say I thought thought that trans people should be excluded from bathrooms? Or did I say that the working class doesn’t like when trans people use their bathrooms?

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                    When you say “we should do what the working class wants” and “the working class doesn’t want trans people to use bathrooms” it’s easy to extrapolate that you mean “we shouldn’t let trans people use bathrooms”.

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                Sounds like you’re a conservative with bias against trans people and not a “enlightened centrists”.

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                  And you got that from me making an observation about how other people feel about T people in society? Cool but inaccurate.

                  I guess I could be perceived as centrist because I’m not entirely on board with any of the agendas or ideologies but I’m sure most conservatives would consider me a progressive. Realist progressive feels like the term but I don’t think that means what I think it means.