The conservative movement has built its case against gender-affirming care on the authority of anachronistic, faulty clinical research.
The conservative movement has built its case against gender-affirming care on the authority of anachronistic, faulty clinical research.
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The difference is that the woman highlighted in that article had complaints about symptoms she was experiencing. Not complaints from other people about who she was. We’ve also learned a lot more since the late 19th century.
The cherry on top is the last sentence of the article you linked:
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You can’t refer to the fact that science progresses over time as an excuse to ignore the current state of the art, that’s asinine.
I’m nonbinary. Actual research studies on the efficacy of hormone therapy for nonbinary people only started getting published like 8 years ago, ~20 years too late for me to get on puberty blockers.
I had to wait decades for the medicine that saved me from dysphoria and depression, you don’t get to wield your ignorance on the topic as an argument against other people getting the care their doctors recommend.
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We have documented historical evidence of trans people existing in society for at least three thousand years. If trans folks have existed in every kind of human society imaginable, then it’s pants-on-head stupid to suppose trans identities are anything other than just a natural part of the human condition.
Saying that we need to look into the “biological root” of transgender identity is like saying "we need to look into the biological root of regressives.
The problem is that such statements are political because they pathologies something that is human diversity.
We should also say, and look at the evidence of other cultures who have had trans people. Like native Americans, who treated us with respect. in those societies there were lower suicide rates.
Even among children, when socially supported the suicide rate goes down with social support.
What you’re conflating is the suicide/depression associated with being treated differently to your identity.
Even if it were human diversity there would be a biological root to it. That’s different from a political view. Regressives aren’t born regressive, they become regressives through their particular life experiences. Just like progressives aren’t born progressives.
If the psychological effects of dysphoria were a simply a matter of acceptance then I posit that with acceptance the need to transition would dissipate entirely.
“regressives aren’t born regressive” how do you know? How would we test? How would we evaluate that?
You’ve basically decided, a priori that this is the case.
Just as you’ve decided a priori that being trans is a case of something wrong with people, that can and should be investigated with the view of eliminating it.
Im not sure why you wouldn’t see that as wrong.
I did not decide anything just because, I don’t know if you can see all my replies here but in all of them I have substantiated my claims with logical reasoning where scientific evidence is not available due to a distinct lack of research in that direction.
I also posted one study that suggests some basis to my argument https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34030966/
I’m of saying there’s something to fix, but there’s something that can be treated. Are we fixing adhd people when we give them adderal or are we helping them live a better life? They can choose not to medicate, or to take different avenues of medication like sound therapy etc. Why is it outrageous to suggest that some transgender individuals might have a neurological issue that could be treated with either transition or whatever medical treatment that might come from such a line of inquiry?
Hence the slogan “Trans rights are human rights”. We don’t need “accomodation”, we just need the same right to bodily autonomy that’s afforded to everyone else. Opposition to trans rights is just the tip of the same spear currently stabbing at women’s rights, gay folks’ rights, and minority rights in general.
Whether or not other people are “on board” with the individual right to self-determination is entirely irrelevant. Either trans kids can get the medicine they and their doctors agree is best, or our government has pulled a China and taken the right to make your own medical decisions away from you. There is no middle ground.
Just like how finding the gay gene was going to bring equality to gays, right?
No, I’m afraid I can’t take you seriously. You’re “just asking questions” and about issues that were settled over 40 years ago and pretending at reasonable dissent based on nothing more substantial than 90’s talk radio talking points.
Again, please read an actual research paper from a reputable medical or psychological association. Take your time with it and google all the $5 science words that aren’t familiar to you. You’ll learn a lot more that way.
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This, this right here.
Immediately going absurdist maximalism about it, very “I’m just making statements” sort of statement.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t do research, I’m saying that our research should be oriented towards improving the quality of life, not “figuring out why queer people are that way”.
The three questions I want answered are: what is to be done about the primary stressors that degrade trans people’s lives (I.E., transphobia), what causes hormone therapy to be such an effective treatment for gender dysphoria, and can we map the phase-space of endocrine system responses to better assist those (cis or trans) who have a need for hormone therapy?
Identifying something is the first step in exterminating it, lets’ maybe not go looking for the trans equivalent of the gay gene that conspiratorial conservatives still believe to be real and instead go looking for ways to help people not be assholes to us.
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The opposition is because you’re treating us as a condition to be fixed instead of who we are. You’re essentially saying, or it at least is coming off as such, that “you’re wrong, I know who you are better than you. It doesn’t matter what historically has worked to make life better for you, and it doesn’t matter what your lived experience is, I know better than you. If we can just numb the part that makes you different, I won’t have to look at people like you anymore. Wouldn’t you rather my cure?”
Pretending like people are a condition to be fixed is why you get pushback. Some people are trans, and some experience gender dysphoria. Making dysphoria less painful in some hypothetical future sense doesn’t make us not who we are. Trans men are men. Trans women are women. Telling them they’re wrong because it makes you uncomfortable isn’t going to be popular with anyone who knows or supports any trans person.
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