• Nima@leminal.space
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    9 hours ago

    signal requires a phone number and won’t even allow you to send sms to those that aren’t on signal.

    its better, but still not great.

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      7 hours ago

      It used to function as a fallback SMS/MMS messenger (like how iMessage does) but when Google started moving to convert Android from SMS/MMS to RCS Signal made the hard decision to cut the fallback functionality rather than follow Google’s new framework.

      I personally hope once the dust settles Signal designs a RCS engine and restores the fallback functionality.

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        7 hours ago

        Yeah killing the sms function was basically a deal breaker for me, no matter how much I tried I could only get three people to use Signal, the rest were all sms. When the sms feature was removed 2 of the 3 dropped Signal completely, so now the only person I know who still uses it is my mom and even she still flips back and forth between Signal and Google messages when texting me.

        I still have Signal on my phone and suggest it people when they ask how to contact me, but everyone just wants to text my phone number.

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        2 hours ago

        if they need my phone number to have an account anyway, they can offer both.

        i dont need more apps that do the same thing. i need less.

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          2 hours ago

          It’s arguably a very bad idea for a secure messenger to also provide an SMS interface, since those are basically cleartext

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            9 minutes ago

            exactly. so I’m wondering what the purpose is for its need.

            (edit: apologies- the phone number. needing the phone number.)

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              17 minutes ago

              What? You use a secure messenger to send secure messages. It doesn’t make sense for a secure messenger to offer sending insecure messages (SMS).

              Edit: oh, you’re probably referring to why it requires a phone number. This seems to be due to abuse/spam prevention, as otherwise creating new accounts to spam people with is basically free.

              • Nima@leminal.space
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                5 minutes ago

                using the phone number is still a pretty unnecessary risk, imho.

                there’s no real need for it any longer.