• MoonMoon@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    As the other guy mentioned, 0.23% per 100,000 doesn’t make sense. That’s like saying 0.23 murders per 100 (cent) per 100,000. One of those per Xs is redundant.

    The Wikipedia page linked says Japan has a murder rate of 0.233 per 100,000 residents. If this made sense as a percent, it would mean a percentage of 0.000233%. But this statistic wouldnt work as a since a “percentage” implies a fraction of a whole, for example 50% of a population is born male.

    The original statistic under discussion says that there are “X number of murder cases per 100,000 people living in country”, rather than “Y% of the country’s population is murder victims”, which wouldn’t make sense anyway since the dead aren’t part of the population; i.e. you wouldn’t see a statistic like “20% of the population is dead” but rather “20% of the population died”, and “90% of the deaths were by murder” rather than “18% of the population is murder victims”.

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    Edit: formatting

    Edit: 0.233 murders per 100,000 residents (in 2022) = 126,146,099 (pop of Japan as per the 2020 census) x 0.233 ÷ 100,000 = 294 murders total. The wiki page says the actual count is 289, so the error is probably due the drop in population since the 2020 census.

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        2 days ago

        But its not 230 murders per 100,000. It’s 289 murders total, for the entire population that year.
        0.233 out of 100,000 were murdered.
        That’s 0.000233% of 100,000 people.

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        2 days ago

        The same table on the Wiki page says that the actual count was 289 murders in 2022. Japan had a population of over 126 million in 2020. If we used your formula, that would mean there were over 289,000 murders in Japan between 2021 and 2022. See below:

        230 per 100,000 = 126,146,099 x 230 ÷ 100,000 = 290,136 murders total.

        Whereas, 0.233 per 100,000 = 126,146,099 x 0.233 ÷ 100,000 = 294 murders total.

        2+2=4, simple maths. But 290k murders per year would explain the population drop, lol.

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          18 hours ago

          It turns out that none of those number nor my own numbers are correct. I don’t know where these wikis got their info from but the actual total number of homicides in Japan for the year 2022 was 853. That’s for the whole country.

          There are multiple sources for that number but here is one:

          https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h01860/

          Either road, they are doing far better than the United States.