And a politician he is, willing to be bought in exchange for political capital.
Stealing from my comment in a different thread:
I’m still upset with Buttigieg for his pre-Super-Tuesday drop out. He joined the establishment to rally against Sanders. In doing so, he became part of what’s wrong with the party.
While I don’t think poorly of him as a person per se, he is also just another politician.
In contrast, I see folks like Sanders and AOC as real agents of change.
In contrast, I see folks like Sanders and AOC as real agents of change.
Are you aware that an entire nation of people other than you exist and that many of them are not down with candidates as progressive as Sanders and AOC?
Are you going to live the rest of your life crying about Sanders being cheated, or are you going to accept that there simply weren’t enough Americans out there comfortable with his kind of progressive stances to make him president?
If Sanders and AOC aren’t the future of the Democratic Party, then the Republicans are just going to keep winning. Neolibs simply aren’t popular. They aren’t far enough to the left for the leftists, and they aren’t far enough to the right for the conservatives.
That’s a very uncharitable assumption of his motivations.
Dropping out of an (FPTP) primary is like awkward manual runoff voting. Once you clearly aren’t winning, you drop out so those votes can flow to the next preferred candidate.
People voting for Buttigieg switched to Biden because he was the most similar candidate. Of course Buttigieg would support the candidate that best matches his policy preferences – and the preferences of voters.
You’re trying to make sense to people who want their preferred candidate to win and if they don’t they throw a fit and won’t accept anyone else.
Hence all the people in these comments STILL crying about Bernie.
I voted for Buttigieg. When it was clear he wasn’t going to get it, he dropped to let his votes go to someone else, like he should have. Then I went with Biden. The next most realistic, progressive option.
A lot of people in these comments do not grasp how American politics function.
You’re stating he believes his policies were closer to Bidens than Bernie’s. That alone should show why people don’t like him and believe he’s a centrist. I don’t really care or think about the dropping out thing. What hurt Bernie is everything and I’m not going to point fingers at him personally, but his “Medicare for all who want it” is exactly the kind of garbage middling take that makes everyone feel as though he stands for nothing and has no actual morals. Leftists are being forced to vote for these people, but he does not represent me or my values and I don’t believe he represents himself. Just whatever he thinks is going to get the backing of the party. Wish people would stop pushing this nonsense online acting like he actually cares about the people and will do anything beyond the bare minimum. He’s certainly not aligned with any leftist agenda.
That alone should show why people don’t like him and believe he’s a centrist.
Lol. We just went with a far right felon rapist traitor with a notably low IQ instead of centrist Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. What makes you think anyone further to the left stands a chance in America?
You want to go hard left? You’re going to lose. Welcome to America in 2025.
Populism from the left gets just as much traction from the working class as populism from the right. Centrists doing poorly has nothing to do with leftists. People liked that Trump was extreme and anti establishment and were very clear about that. He beat a Bush in the primaries. It was Jeb, but still. People liked that he was “telling it like it is”, which a centrist never will. Additionally, leftists politicians consistently come across as more genuine, even to republicans, which goes a long way. When Harris says she cares, I have no doubt that what she cares about is her career because it’s so transparent. Leftists stand for something and that encourages trust and interest and support. If they had centrist dem backing the way magats had centrist republican backing, this country would have gay space communism already.
And a politician he is, willing to be bought in exchange for political capital.
Stealing from my comment in a different thread:
Are you aware that an entire nation of people other than you exist and that many of them are not down with candidates as progressive as Sanders and AOC?
Are you going to live the rest of your life crying about Sanders being cheated, or are you going to accept that there simply weren’t enough Americans out there comfortable with his kind of progressive stances to make him president?
Chill out. Going into attack mode doesn’t make your assertion carry more weight.
If Sanders and AOC aren’t the future of the Democratic Party, then the Republicans are just going to keep winning. Neolibs simply aren’t popular. They aren’t far enough to the left for the leftists, and they aren’t far enough to the right for the conservatives.
That’s a very uncharitable assumption of his motivations.
Dropping out of an (FPTP) primary is like awkward manual runoff voting. Once you clearly aren’t winning, you drop out so those votes can flow to the next preferred candidate.
People voting for Buttigieg switched to Biden because he was the most similar candidate. Of course Buttigieg would support the candidate that best matches his policy preferences – and the preferences of voters.
You’re trying to make sense to people who want their preferred candidate to win and if they don’t they throw a fit and won’t accept anyone else.
Hence all the people in these comments STILL crying about Bernie.
I voted for Buttigieg. When it was clear he wasn’t going to get it, he dropped to let his votes go to someone else, like he should have. Then I went with Biden. The next most realistic, progressive option.
A lot of people in these comments do not grasp how American politics function.
You’re stating he believes his policies were closer to Bidens than Bernie’s. That alone should show why people don’t like him and believe he’s a centrist. I don’t really care or think about the dropping out thing. What hurt Bernie is everything and I’m not going to point fingers at him personally, but his “Medicare for all who want it” is exactly the kind of garbage middling take that makes everyone feel as though he stands for nothing and has no actual morals. Leftists are being forced to vote for these people, but he does not represent me or my values and I don’t believe he represents himself. Just whatever he thinks is going to get the backing of the party. Wish people would stop pushing this nonsense online acting like he actually cares about the people and will do anything beyond the bare minimum. He’s certainly not aligned with any leftist agenda.
Lol. We just went with a far right felon rapist traitor with a notably low IQ instead of centrist Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. What makes you think anyone further to the left stands a chance in America?
You want to go hard left? You’re going to lose. Welcome to America in 2025.
Populism from the left gets just as much traction from the working class as populism from the right. Centrists doing poorly has nothing to do with leftists. People liked that Trump was extreme and anti establishment and were very clear about that. He beat a Bush in the primaries. It was Jeb, but still. People liked that he was “telling it like it is”, which a centrist never will. Additionally, leftists politicians consistently come across as more genuine, even to republicans, which goes a long way. When Harris says she cares, I have no doubt that what she cares about is her career because it’s so transparent. Leftists stand for something and that encourages trust and interest and support. If they had centrist dem backing the way magats had centrist republican backing, this country would have gay space communism already.