“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser

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    16 hours ago

    No no. He came in with a latex spine. Take a look at his cabinet. He did the job rather well but change was never going to come with that group.

    Your economic false dichotomy is funny though. There were a whole range of options like nationalization and criminal charges for executives that did not get explored because centrism.

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      12 hours ago

      Hindsight is 20/20.

      But no. There was no criminal charges afoot this is why I’m calling y’all idealists. Do you think this country is or was or is going to be clean enough to do any of that, ever?

      Maybe if you do some shady shit too to get it done. But by the book as you’re suggesting? No fuckin way.

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        8 hours ago

        He did run on “change”. What’s your point? Mindless centrism is realistic? Mine is Obama didn’t get much done, his greatest legacy is the ACA and that is being undone as we speak because of his failures elsewhere.

        Runs a parallel to Biden doing alright generally but completely failing on Merrick Garland negating everything else he did.