Somewhere between vegetarians and jains, depending on how much they respect the right to life of non-mammal animals (roaches, mosquitos, ants, etc) outside of food contexts. But veganism isn’t generally a distinction from vegetarianism with regard to right to life, just rights more broadly, so it’s on a somewhat different axis. Many seem only concerned with “cute” animals (i.e. mammals and a small subset of marine animals) outside of food contexts, but I’m sure there are some who wouldn’t bug-bomb their house. I doubt many sweep the ground in front of them to avoid stepping on bugs, like devout Jains. In fact, most vegans would consider that extreme, which betrays their bias towards the cute animals that deserve to live, since they’d absolutely go out of their way to not step on one of their preferred species.
Jainism is a religion, as peaceful as it is, it also has it’s flaws. Some jains use dairy products because it is generally acceptable, though with modern practices it obviously violates their core principles, but loopholes like that are common to religions.
Veganism is pretty simple and practical, it is all about reducing harm. Of course each vegan has their own interpretation of what constitutes as unnecessary harm and what doesn’t, but it is rooted in our scientific understanding of who can actually be harmed.
It is far more than a diet, it is the understanding that my wants are not above others needs and rights, human or otherwise.
The way I see it, Veganism is the most moral framework that is rooted in reality.
And vegans?
Somewhere between vegetarians and jains, depending on how much they respect the right to life of non-mammal animals (roaches, mosquitos, ants, etc) outside of food contexts. But veganism isn’t generally a distinction from vegetarianism with regard to right to life, just rights more broadly, so it’s on a somewhat different axis. Many seem only concerned with “cute” animals (i.e. mammals and a small subset of marine animals) outside of food contexts, but I’m sure there are some who wouldn’t bug-bomb their house. I doubt many sweep the ground in front of them to avoid stepping on bugs, like devout Jains. In fact, most vegans would consider that extreme, which betrays their bias towards the cute animals that deserve to live, since they’d absolutely go out of their way to not step on one of their preferred species.
Look, religion is one thing, science is another.
Jainism is a religion, as peaceful as it is, it also has it’s flaws. Some jains use dairy products because it is generally acceptable, though with modern practices it obviously violates their core principles, but loopholes like that are common to religions.
Veganism is pretty simple and practical, it is all about reducing harm. Of course each vegan has their own interpretation of what constitutes as unnecessary harm and what doesn’t, but it is rooted in our scientific understanding of who can actually be harmed.
It is far more than a diet, it is the understanding that my wants are not above others needs and rights, human or otherwise.
The way I see it, Veganism is the most moral framework that is rooted in reality.