• OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    Your grandparents stormed the beaches at Normandy and you’re whining and making excuses about why you’re letting your country slide into fascism.

    Is this what you’re going to tell your grandkids when they ask why you didn’t stop it?

    “Home of the brave”. Maybe long ago.

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      16 hours ago

      More assumptions about me and mine. The history is not so simple. My grandparents stormed beaches because that was what the president told them to do, and because the country itself was literally under attack by an outside enemy. It wasn’t a noble personal sacrifice in the same way - soldiers risked their lives and went through hell, but they also did so with a guarantee that they would get something in return if we won the war. I’m not going to get paid to protest, and I will be demonized by my employer and the federal government. And I don’t know my great grandparents’ exact views on racial politics, but I would estimate most of those same soldiers took no issue with the whites-only bathrooms they used on a daily basis before and after the war. Why didn’t they do anything about that? Was that “brave” of them to turn the other cheek to all the problems the country was facing at that time?

      I’m pretending to be brave or courageous. I try to be disruptive in my job and compassionate to my neighbors, and that in itself is already difficult and risky. It’s very easy to tell people to do more when you have no similar obligation to act.

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        16 hours ago

        the country itself was literally under attack by an outside enemy

        Your country is literally under attack by an inside enemy

        a guarantee that they would get something in return if we won the war.

        You’ll get your democracy.

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            14 hours ago

            I’ll let you know after Trump tries to annex us. Actually, no I won’t because I’ll be out doing it and not making excuses on the internet.

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              14 hours ago

              You know that fascism is rising in Canada too, right? So if you want to go fight it, you could step out your front door and start today.

              Unless you reside in Russia. Not fully convinced you aren’t a Russian troll.

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                A Russian troll wouldn’t have to say anything. He’d sit there laughing at you making excuses while your country destroyed itself.

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      8 hours ago

      Your grandparents stormed the beaches at Normandy

      Oh, so what you actually want is for us to dash our bodies upon the stones and get shot to death by cops, is it? What a completely reasonable ask! One that I’m sure you won’t be doing yourself, of course. That’s our job.

      I’m not your footsoldier. I’m not throwing myself into a fire just because you’re unsatisfied with the action being taken. I have a life to live, and I’m barely managing that as it is. Your criticism is less than worthless.

      Your advice wouldn’t fix America. It’d just get us all killed. If you want to be frustrated, find a more productive way to do it.

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        Oh, so what you actually want is for us to dash our bodies upon the stones and get shot to death by cops, is it? What a completely reasonable ask! One that I’m sure you won’t be doing yourself, of course. That’s our job.

        Please work on your reading comprehension. Nowhere did I even imply that’s what you should be doing.

        I was contrasting the level of bravery and energy between them and you. They stormed Normandy to save foreign nations and yet you’re making excuses to not even get off the couch to save your own.