• JoYo@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    no one wants to secure their web render so they’ll always use whatever is native to the platform.

    on windows that’s chromium. on macos that’s webkit.

        • crazycaveman@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          Chromium isn’t native to Windows. iOS is the only OS (I’m aware of) where browsers are forced to use a specific engine, but even that will be changing

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              1 year ago

              No, I’m not. Chromium doesn’t exist in Windows unless you install a program that includes it. Chromium web engine is “native” to the chromium web browser, not to any OS (except maybe ChromeOS). As espi mentioned, Internet explorer’s mshtml is the only engine “native” to Windows. Just look at the Opera browser, they changed web engines from Presto to chromium; that’s not using “what’s native to the platform” (Opera works across all OS’s with chromium, except for iOS for the restriction I mentioned before), it’s using what the developers/company want to use to render their pages. Nothing in Windows itself provides any of the chromium engine “pieces”

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                1 year ago

                This was true until Edge transitioned to Chromium. Now the natively installed browser in Windows is Chromium based.

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                  1 year ago

                  careful, you used the word native.

                  Firefox users apparently get triggered by it.

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                    Because what you claim is wrong.

                    Microsoft programs that need a web rendering engine use MSHTML, not Chromium. MSHTML is baked into the operating system.

                    You can completely delete Edge from your computer and Windows will keep working fine.

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      What does this even mean. Chromium or Webkit are not “native” to an OS. OSs don’t magically include browser engines, its not a critical component of an OS either.

      Most OSs do come with browsers preinstalled, but they are programs just like any other. You can remove Safari from macOS (albeit its pretty hard because root is read only and signed), you can remove Edge from Windows. In my desktop with Windows 10 the only browser I have is Firefox (not even Edge), does that make Gecko the “native” browser engine?

      If anything, the native browser engine for Windows would be MSHTML from Internet Explorer.