Different person, but I started using vertical tabs a few weeks ago and gave both extensions a try for a few days.
I’m using Sideberry now. It seems more polished to me with lots more features. I particularly like how well it integrates with Firefox containers and that you can create tab groups, which are essentially tabs for tabs.
No, I don’t think so. You can drag out windows but they don’t for example snap to the corners immediately, so you have to release them first and then pick them up again.
I looked into it further at one point, there’s some other change that needs to happen before that feature can me implemented. The issue was documented over a decade ago… but I’d have to learn a ton about how FF works to even start to understand how to make the changes needed.
I can say that for now, the logic is pretty basic, hide the tab, attach a little screenshot of the tab to the cursor, create a window with the content of that tab if the mouse is released outside of the browser window.
I don’t understand how you don’t notice the difference between how chrome handles dragging tabs and how FF does. And all the people who upvoted you too.
We must have very different ways of using our computers. I’m regularly dragging a tab out to put it side by side with another window, and it seems like FF tabs are the only thing I drag around that don’t behave as expected. It’s glaringly obvious every time it happens, and it’s minuscule friction points like this that drive me nuts when I run into them repeatedly, day after day, for years.
Edit: the behaviour with FF is, you drag the tab out of the original FF window, release your mouse. A new window is created, then you can drag that window around place it as usual.
No this is actually working perfectly, on Wayland.
Drag, i get a miniature transparent window, move to other window, place next to a tab and that needle appears, done.
So dragging a tab to another window works. But true, dragging a tab and it immediately becomes a window doesnt. But that is quite aggressive UI wise, so I think its fair to not add it.
Virtually everyone in the world uses some chromium based browser. In my case, I use edge when I need a chromium based browser as it’s the chromium browser installed by default on my heathenous windows machine.
It’s in the nightly builds, although when they announced it they (bizarrely) received a lot of hate for it, so I’m not sure they’ll continue development.
I have no idea. I just remember the thread where they announced it there was a lot of vitriol over it. I remember a couple were due to it “not being original”, which seems like an insane reason to me.
Because It is better for reading on websites. Normally there is just a ton of space to the sides of the text, and it would make more sense to actually use it.
Why not an extra bar like all other browsers?
What… do you mean? They have the top bar like other browsers. A lot of other browsers have vertical tabs now too.
I would really like to get some shortcuts for some sites.
Add them then?
Also, I think tab groups are way more important.
I never said they aren’t. Also, they do have container tabs, they just hide it in about:config.
I searched for the keywords “vert” and “tabs” and found nothing.
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its in the works, they have confirmed that vertical tabs are coming
Right after HL3 will be released.
Its been a while for that classic
Sidebery is an excellent extension for that. I really doubt Mozilla is going to make one as good as that.
Do you have experience with tree style tabs extensions also?
Different person, but I started using vertical tabs a few weeks ago and gave both extensions a try for a few days.
I’m using Sideberry now. It seems more polished to me with lots more features. I particularly like how well it integrates with Firefox containers and that you can create tab groups, which are essentially tabs for tabs.
Yeah, sidebery is much much better
I used Sideberry for a while, but I tried out one called Tab Stash and I think it’s much better overall than Sideberry personally
Is there an extension to drag out tabs seamlessly into another window like you can do with chromium.
Isn’t this already built in?
No, I don’t think so. You can drag out windows but they don’t for example snap to the corners immediately, so you have to release them first and then pick them up again.
I looked into it further at one point, there’s some other change that needs to happen before that feature can me implemented. The issue was documented over a decade ago… but I’d have to learn a ton about how FF works to even start to understand how to make the changes needed.
I can say that for now, the logic is pretty basic, hide the tab, attach a little screenshot of the tab to the cursor, create a window with the content of that tab if the mouse is released outside of the browser window.
Maybe I’ll dig into the code again at some point
I don’t understand how you don’t notice the difference between how chrome handles dragging tabs and how FF does. And all the people who upvoted you too.
We must have very different ways of using our computers. I’m regularly dragging a tab out to put it side by side with another window, and it seems like FF tabs are the only thing I drag around that don’t behave as expected. It’s glaringly obvious every time it happens, and it’s minuscule friction points like this that drive me nuts when I run into them repeatedly, day after day, for years.
Edit: the behaviour with FF is, you drag the tab out of the original FF window, release your mouse. A new window is created, then you can drag that window around place it as usual.
No this is actually working perfectly, on Wayland.
Drag, i get a miniature transparent window, move to other window, place next to a tab and that needle appears, done.
So dragging a tab to another window works. But true, dragging a tab and it immediately becomes a window doesnt. But that is quite aggressive UI wise, so I think its fair to not add it.
who the fuck uses chrome??
Virtually everyone in the world uses some chromium based browser. In my case, I use edge when I need a chromium based browser as it’s the chromium browser installed by default on my heathenous windows machine.
i can drag tabs from window to window, don’t know how you all use your computers…
But if you have your tabs in one window, and you want to create a new window by dragging a tab out of the single existing window.
It’s in the nightly builds, although when they announced it they (bizarrely) received a lot of hate for it, so I’m not sure they’ll continue development.
Why would people hate on them for adding a commonly requested feature?
I have no idea. I just remember the thread where they announced it there was a lot of vitriol over it. I remember a couple were due to it “not being original”, which seems like an insane reason to me.
You should probably open an issue about this
It is widely talked about, I’m sure someone has.
This is the post to upvote: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/native-vertical-tabs/idi-p/85
Why? Why not an extra bar like all other browsers? I suppose that is possible too? But idk.
I would really like to get some shortcuts for some sites.
Also, I think tab groups are way more important. SimpleTabGroups is constantly losing its state, containers, pinned bookmarks, its a total pain.
Why?
Because It is better for reading on websites. Normally there is just a ton of space to the sides of the text, and it would make more sense to actually use it.
Why not an extra bar like all other browsers?
What… do you mean? They have the top bar like other browsers. A lot of other browsers have vertical tabs now too.
I would really like to get some shortcuts for some sites.
Add them then?
Also, I think tab groups are way more important.
I never said they aren’t. Also, they do have container tabs, they just hide it in about:config.
Yeah these are 2 separate things, both important.
Horizontal tabs, in the hidden “compact” mode dont take up lots of space, less space than vertical ones.
A sidebar would conflict with vertical tabs I think. Like in Brave, where you can add just a few sites.
Tab containers are way more important than groups and a killer feature of FF.