Capybaras are classified as fish in Catholic canon law, on the grounds that they spend their lives in water. I’m guessing that a party of conquistadors was on the verge of starvation and got their priest to petition the Vatican to issue a retroactive ruling in their favour.
Iirc, both Jewish and Islamic law are explicit that if you can break kosher/eating halal if you have no other options for food. Keeping yourself alive is more important.
Is there not something similar in catholic theology?
In Catholic doctrine you can break literally all rules except denouncing the holy spirit, if you confess and repent afterwards.
I’m kinda tempted to go to a catholic priest, tell them my full life story and see if they could even come up with penance for me. Like as a gay trans man, I imagine I’d be told to detransition but I’m far enough along that I can’t really go back - I’m not even sure what they’d consider a sin at this point.
The current pope is pretty lenient towards LGBTQ+ compared to most other religions and especially compared to old school Catholic pope’s. Jesus was a man of peace and the current pope seems to think that was his ultimate message for mankind.
You can save yourself from all of them, there is no irredeemable sin in any Christ based faith. Only ones that need more explaining, hedging and tithing than others.
Not eating meat on Fridays is an invention of the church. Jesus never said that.
Conveniently enough church said beavers are fish so they had meat to eat while others suffer.
abstaining from the consumption of animal flesh isn’t suffering. Quite the opposite.
Spot the vegan.
Implying vegans should be invisible or hard to spot?
Implying any mention of meat you come crawling out of woodwork.
only when it seems to be getting promoted.
Half the fun of the Christianities is endlessly debating what Jesus did or did not say.
I mean, that’s presumably all written in the Bible. More often than not, the question isn’t what he said but what he meant by it, and there’s certainly no shortage of opinions on that.
I agree that is one of the more common things to debate, probably more common than what he did say. But that’s also only true as long as you confine yourself to the Bible as it exists today. When you look into the history, archeological record, and textual criticism though, things get much more complicated as quite a few more groups wrote about what Jesus was purported to teach than the Catholic and Protestant churches would like you to believe.
Robert Price’s, “Pre-Nicene New Testament” is a good introduction to just how diverse and radically different early Christianity was. Bart Erhman is another great author who clearly cares more about what’s true, than what fits a churches dogma.
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Is there already a !beetlejuicing on a lemmy instance?
Strangely, there wasn’t, but I finally created !beetlejuicing@lemm.ee.
Please feel free to post this there.
I can’t believe all this religious people that pull off these loopholes really believe in a god…
If it really exists, it’s gonna bust your ass.
In some religious traditions, it’s not believed that they’re loopholes, or cheating.
If the written rules are the precise literal words of your deity who can make no errors, then if something is technically allowed it’s allowed on purpose.
The deity wouldn’t make a mistake or try to trick people into following a rule that wasn’t written.Yahweh says no tending a fire on Saturday. Alright, what is “fire”? Is electricity fire? Is it a prohibited labor? Time to think.
God says no eating creatures of the land or sky. Well, otters aren’t of the land or sky, so fair game.
Allah says no pork unless your life depends on it. Is processed porcine collagen still pork if it’s used in artificial heart valves? What level of chemical transformation is required to remove the “pork-ness”?The belief that a deity cares about the spirit of the the written rules and not the words is itself a religious belief.
Which, in some religions, means it’s open to debate to figure out exactly what it means. :PThat thinking only works if you don’t realize that it’s all in interpretation, its not a loophole persay it’s a series of loopholes you sorta work around and jump through.
Loophole to me means that you found a way to cheat the system.
If you believe your deity is entirely onboard with being a rules lawyer, then finding clever ways to do things while following the rules is just “following the rules”.
If your deity says no firestarting on a Saturday, so you start it on Friday to use Saturday, why would you be in trouble for following the rules?No one legit believes any of that shit or they wouldn’t sin in multiple every fucking day.
